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Prevailing Winds06 Mar 2005 6:30 p.m. PST

can any one tell me what color French Marine uniforms used on board ships were around 1812???? please help.

Ed Mohrmann06 Mar 2005 6:55 p.m. PST

Information I have is sketchy (Knotel), but indicates
that the French Marines wore a short-tail, single-breasted
dark blue coat with no turn backs or lapels. A stand-up
collar. Dark blue trousers. NCO's and officers with a
red waistcoat. Facing color (collar, primarily) was
black.

Note that this is NOT the same as the Marin de la Garde.

Hope this helps.

Prevailing Winds06 Mar 2005 6:58 p.m. PST

How about a hat?? shako? tricorn? color? Thanks

Kevin F Kiley07 Mar 2005 4:42 a.m. PST

During the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars, the French had no Marines. Marin is translated as seamen, while matelot is the French word for sailor. Marine is the French word for Navy.

The function of marines during the period was performed by 'garrisons' of regular infantry put aboard the ships and being detached from their parent regiments.

For example, the troops assigned to Jones' Bon Homme Richard during the War of the American Revolution to serve as marines were from the Regiment Walsh, a redcoated regiment of Irish origin.

The French had a naval artillery organization (during the Empire the Corps Imperial d'Artillerie de la Marine) that was well-trained and very professional that served both aboard ship and on land. They were artillerymen. In 1813 they provided four large regiments that were the backbone of Marmont's VI Corps in Germany. They also served as Guard artilleryman when that arm was built back up after Russia.

From time to time there were also regiments of infanterie de Marine, but they were not Marines (in the sense of a Marine Corps as the US and British had), they were sailors.

Ed Mohrmann07 Mar 2005 7:47 p.m. PST

Prevailing Winds, I found a Detaille illo which shows
the uniform I sketchily described above (very like the
normal Line Infantry uniform, as Gandalf suggests).

The headgear appears to be a normal shako, with the
normal infantry appointments.

BTW, from your board name, I'd guess you play Toby's
rules ?

Prevailing Winds07 Mar 2005 8:29 p.m. PST

They are really my rules that I sell Through Toby. But the answer to your ? is yes.

so, Im trying to do up a few French ships and trying to find out more about the french (marines?)any more info would be helpful.

WaltOHara20 Jun 2007 12:50 p.m. PST

Are there French Sailor and ship Infantry figures in 20mm?

seneffe24 Jun 2007 5:38 p.m. PST

As other posters have mentioned, the French didn't have Marines in the sense of the British and US corps. Troops from regular infantry units often served aboard ships (eg the 2nd and 93rd Line at Trafalgar), where they performed the same duties as British/US Marines.

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