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Lou from BSM13 Jul 2015 8:43 p.m. PST

I've been away in the western states for some time now, and I have been inspired by my travels. I've been to the sites of the Fetterman Massacre, Little Big Horn, Wounded Knee, and a variety of others. I've become very interested in the actions of the U.S. Cavalry versus the various Sioux tribes and their Cheyenne and Arapaho allies.

Who makes these figures in 25/28mm? I know I can find them in 15mm, but I don't feel that the paint job in 15mm will do them justice. It has to be 25/28mm for me. Does anyone make 25/28mm Sioux (Lakota, Dakota, Nakota, etc)?

Thank you in advance…

Personal logo chicklewis Supporting Member of TMP13 Jul 2015 9:36 p.m. PST

Conquest Miniatures has some really great figures. Most of them are Woodlands indians, but there are comanche available as well.

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Wargames Foundry has beautiful Plains Indians, with foot and mounted versions of many of the sculpts.

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Lt Col Pedant14 Jul 2015 1:47 a.m. PST

RAFM for US cavalry and Plains Indians in genuine 25mm.And there're some very nice 1/72 plastics out now (Can't recall the brand).

…And Dixon's -large-ish 25mm.

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP14 Jul 2015 3:09 a.m. PST

Dixons fit with Wargames Foundry. quite well. Foundry's cavalry are quite accurate for 1876. It would be better if the saddle bags were all the 1859 model. They have lot of 1874 bags that were not issued until after the 1876 fighting was over.

For the 1860 actions, I use Sash and Sabre ACW cavalry. I put some Perry plastic ACW soft hats on some.

For infantry, I used Foundry and Artizan for 1870s and Old Glory ACW in light marching order (no knapsacks) for 1860s.

Britannia does large Army figures. In my opinion their horses are too large to mix with Foundry or Dixon. Artizan infantry is a bit larger than Foundrt dismounted cavalry, but mix nicely with Foundry Plains War infantry.

The latter are not in the current Foundry catalog. However, Foundry has said if you can tell them the original code number they can find the mold and cast the figures.

Tom

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Secsesh14 Jul 2015 3:24 a.m. PST

Check out the Early War Miniatures O scale Plains Indian range – it comes with Sioux, Pawnee, Crow plus US cavalry and extras like Indian family, dog travois, pony herd, buffalo. The Early War site only lists the Sioux codes but send them a note and they can send you a complete list. I have just got the list and considering an order – I want to do plains war but struggling making a decision 6mm, 18mm (Blue Moon), 28mm or O Scale/35mm. Given the range of options with the Early War miniatures and a preference for large scale I think I am coming to a conclusion but need to think of how to fund! I can see some great scenarios of US cavalry with Pawnee or Crow scouts facing Sioux bands.

zippyfusenet14 Jul 2015 5:38 a.m. PST

Garryowen knows Plains War backwards and forwards. +1 whatever he writes.

The 1/72 plastic Imex Sioux Indians are a very good set, but I don't think anyone makes proper Centennial Campaign US troops in 1/72 plastic. You'd have to make do with ACW conversions.

Rafm are small 25s. I'd mix them with Minifigs, old Frontier or other 'true' 25s, if you have them.

The Conquest portrait figures of Crazy Horse and Gall are 28mm and straight from the Osprey plates. Maybe one day Eric will follow up with more of the northern plains tribes.

Foundry are IMO the best 25/28mm Indians and Cavalry for Little Big Horn. Our own Atomic Floozy, Elaine has shown that you can make Old Glory Plains Indians look as good as Foundry, but it's a lot more work:

atomicfloozy.com/articles

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP14 Jul 2015 8:14 a.m. PST

Thanks for the kind words zippy.

Tom

Atomic Floozy14 Jul 2015 12:40 p.m. PST

I'm kind of the opposite. I've toured Palo Duro Canyon, Blanco Canyon, Ft. Concho, Ft. Davis, Ft. Richardson, & far too historical markers on the side of the road. I'm a "Southern Plains girl" as the song goes (if you've hung out at any pow wows). So I'm not as knowledgable about the tribes on the Northern Plains. I do know that only one or two sculpts of the Conquest Comanche would pass as any of the Siuox confederation of tribes.

The Foundry plains Indians and most of the Old Glory Indians can be used as Sioux. The main things to look at when determining what tribe a sculpt can pass for are hairstyles, amount of beadwork on clothing (esp. Moccasins), & fringe work.

For cavalry, I like the Artizan & Foundry sculpts. Old Glory has some really dynamic horses and poses, but the tack is wrong for troops on campaign & they took the Hollywood route by including sabers, which are fairly easy to clip off.

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP14 Jul 2015 12:53 p.m. PST

Old Glory's dismounted Custer's Last Stand has some very useful dead horses.

Tom

Tom Molon Supporting Member of TMP14 Jul 2015 3:46 p.m. PST

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BelgianRay15 Jul 2015 11:56 a.m. PST

Thank you Secsesh for the info on Early War Miniatures. I bought the Sioux War Party at CRISIS in Belgium and they are FABULOUS.
I phoned them 3 years ago and they would send me a full catalog…I'm still waiting ….

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