"Russian Subs with SAM's" Topic

Hi:
I see in Janes that some Russian submarines like the Typhoons were equipped with short-range SAM's. Were these hand held or mounted and were they for use submerged or surfaced use only?

Mast-mounted, IIRC.

Probably could only be fired from the surface, or perhaps periscope depth, if they did a little modification to them.

They probably had some shoulder-fired ones on board, just in case, say like if their sub was disabled on the surface.

I remember them being mast mounted as well.

Not like most manpads have enough boom to deal with MPA, though. Helicopters, sure, but MPA are big beasts.

Even the IDAS missile the Germans are working with has a warhead almost twice the size of the IRIS-T that the IDAS is based on (~20kg instead of ~12kg), and I'd want to get up to ESSM warhead size of 40kg.

A mission kill's good enough though – take out an engine and it'll go home, so you can too….

P3s can cruise on 1 engine, Dom, and regularly fly with one engine shut down simply to save fuel.

Yep, which isn't the same as having unknown damage and a possibility of another shot if you stick around. Under most circumstances I'd expect the patrol plane to go home….

My plan is to give the sub a retributive strike if the patrol plane fails miserably in its attack roll. Damage would be moot as the plane is going home at the end of the turn anyway, though I could give an "Out of action one turn" result.