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Oldmoustache24 Jun 2015 5:36 p.m. PST

I recruited on here for my waterloo anniversary battle. I had no luck. The battle was a success at some levels, failure at others. I went all out for this once in s lifetime event and was very disappointed

I sm setting up my field sgain maybe late fall, as soon as I csn construct some more terrain models for the Plancenoit area snd Prussian arrival

My plan is to re fight this by mystlf if needed

My question is, anyone EXPERIENCED at empire V, within distance of Dayton and want to partake of this with me?

Would love to show u pics of the terrain model but I don't have pics online to link to.

Anyone interested please email me at

Would love to hear from you…

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2015 6:12 p.m. PST

Sorry your game was a disappointment.

Oldmoustache24 Jun 2015 6:41 p.m. PST

It wasn't completely. Just didn't get to do as much as I wished. Had some inexperienced players and thst slowed things. But I just wanna fight this again. I put s lot of work into this snd I want to do it sgsin all the way to it's end

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2015 7:02 p.m. PST

The problem is your rules. I don't know anyone who has played any version of Empire for many years (decades). Restricting the game to those fluent in Empire V is just about guaranteeing yourself a lack of players. There are a number of Naps gamers in the Dayton area; no one I know still plays Empire.

IMO, if you want to play a battle of this size in an afternoon with a room full of strangers, you need to look at something like Volley and Bayonet.

Intrepide24 Jun 2015 9:25 p.m. PST

Agree with 79thPA. Even with new players, the right set of rules should let them push through. Perhaps write your own? Very, very simple mechanisms for orders, movement, and an abstracted combat resolution? Something that would fit on a 3x5 card.

If I were near I would love to participate. There used to be a lot of SYW guys up in that general area. Perhaps try to get the word out to them?

Oldmoustache25 Jun 2015 2:51 a.m. PST

I didn't say sn afternoon lol. Empire is gonna be a multiple day/evening event. That's why I advertise here. You don't find empire guys walking the street or train them in one session. That's why I'm asking for empire guys on a discussion board for empire. I know there are some left out there somewhere.

If everyone was experienced, you would do this in two days. We did 6 hours in two days with three completely new people, with only maybe 5 actual gaming hours per day. Really not bad for empire

Troop deployment is what took awhile! Lol

marshalGreg25 Jun 2015 5:51 a.m. PST

I would not give up just yet.
The month has been very busy for all either in prior waterloo game commitments( along with finishing the game project for GM'ing at historicon), as happened to me or job demands, which plagued a few others.
I will be in Historicon this year again and hope to re-unite with some of the Empire players from Virginia, West Virginia and Eastern Tennessee.
With good "ahead planning" and pre-arranged hotel accommodations blocked out, I can promise myself and Mike from GA, With perhaps Steve from Ohio and couple of the Historicon buds as possibilities, something could grow from these ashes for the fall.
There are also at least 3 in Mich that could become available.

legendti2000 at yahoo dot com

Oldmoustache25 Jun 2015 8:39 a.m. PST

Wow. U just made me giddy!
Experience is the key. If you are experienced empire can play smooth and quick enough
I'm not giving up hope. I had to "borrow" about three divisions worth of stuff, so I'm gonna get it painted. I'm not gonna hijack the sunroom again till summers over, so this will be later.
I just want to give it another go with the added bonus of not rushing to finish the terrain model etc. I think it'll be a blast
Thanks for your response!

Mallen25 Jun 2015 9:33 a.m. PST

I assisted in an Empire III game years ago, at a convention. We reduced troop ratios (a unit was a regiment, etc) and started deployed. I am not sure if the main bodies of infantry ever even made contact.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2015 10:39 a.m. PST

Good luck on your project. I know it is a labor of love.

Intrepide25 Jun 2015 10:45 a.m. PST

Good luck on this. Perhaps salt some Empire vets amongst the newies? As chain of command or roving sub-referees?

Oldmoustache25 Jun 2015 1:42 p.m. PST

We did. Three experienced guys and three newbies, but it was still too much. Slowed things down way too much

marshalGreg25 Jun 2015 2:26 p.m. PST

Your address at the OP did not work for me. pls contact me by my legendti2000 at yahoo address.
I have some strategies for you to consider that streamline the game and will guarantee faster play without lost of feel.


Oldmoustache25 Jun 2015 2:45 p.m. PST

I will do that.
We play with lots of house rules. We've streamlined a lot, but some things, like knowing your own troop's morale snd your own fire class, having to remind your two rank not three, those types of things you can't streamline.

I was very honored to have one of the empire V designers present on the first day, but couldn't talk him into playing! Lol

I'll contact you

Oldmoustache25 Jun 2015 5:56 p.m. PST

Marshal Greg, I sent an email

tuscaloosa02 Jul 2015 12:05 p.m. PST

You know, years ago I played in a similar game, where someone advertised for players for a big game he really wanted to try out. He got together myself and about 5-6 other people through online contact, and we were all unknown to each other.

This was a big game requiring a serious commitment, but when I went over to the host's place at the appointed time, he hadn't even begun setting it up. So the first thing all the players had to do was get out all of the starting forces, sort through all the units, etc. And that wasted hours and hours of the precious limited available gaming time. So the net result was a bust.

So I would suggest that however you organise it, it would be a big help for the host to set things up ahead of time, so everyone can use their time to play, instead of doing things that the host can already do himself on his own time.

Art23 Jan 2016 9:25 p.m. PST

Good Day John,

Why don't you try using Empire II…I do it all the time when I introduce someone to the Napoleonic era. It is easy to learn and fast playing…and if time is an issue…go with Empire I…which I have also used…

As a matter of fact I introduced my two sons to Empire I…went to Empire II…now they are using my own set of rules.

Best Regards

John Miller26 Jan 2016 8:07 p.m. PST

Oldmoustache: Waterloo, a la Empire! An experience I would very much enjoy! I will attempt to contact you via the e-mail you posted above. An umpire whose rulings are law is something that makes games go much smoother IMHO, weather "historic" or "beer and pretzels" rules are in play. Just a thought. Thanks, John Miller

John Miller26 Jan 2016 8:52 p.m. PST

Oldmoustache: I was unable to send you an E-mail at the address you gave. As I am a computer idiot it could be a problem on my end, or as in the case of marshal Greg above, something else. I will try again tomorrow evening. Thanks, John Miller

John Miller27 Jan 2016 8:32 p.m. PST

Oldmoustache: I tried again but no luck. My e-mail is

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