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zebra77 Inactive Member23 Jun 2015 5:16 a.m. PST

Hello,

I'm looking for a bit of basic information about W A S Two Sicilies flags ?

I know that during the Napoleonic wars the colonels flag was similar to Spanish flags, white with a large coat of arms, would the flags be similar during 1740-48 ?

Ken.

de Ligne Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Jun 2015 5:31 a.m. PST

Interesting that you should ask. Dave of nba-sywtemplates.blogspot.com and I are working on this at the moment ))
Nigel
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Personal logo andygamer Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member23 Jun 2015 8:48 a.m. PST

Based on the Spanish Bourbon ones but exact details unknown.

Here's something to go on from 1755…
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And…
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And the Spanish Irish regiment that would become the Neapolitan King's Regiment (del Re) probably kept its blue flag with golden Irish harp too.

MarescialloDiCampo24 Sep 2015 9:18 a.m. PST

Two Sicilies flag 1738 – "bandiera del Regno delle Due Sicilie" dal 1738:
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Royal flag of two sicilies:
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Two Sicilies 1861 example over Messina Fort:
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First Swiss Regt – Bourbon/Two Sicilies:
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Army of two Sicilies (Lists 1740s Army units):
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Specifically on flags (translated and site below):
The first flags of the new independent kingdom under Charles of Bourbon was heavily influenced by the Spanish styles in use at the beginning of the century and long continued to follow them.
Each infantry regiment of the line was equipped with three national flags, one called a colonel's color and two other flags.
The three flags, all white, the colonel's flag went to the center, the royal arms surmounted by a crown, and the two other flags were of a Red Burgundy cross.
The foreign regiments had some flags with the insignia denoting their origin or fields of other colors (example: "Real Macedonia" was a crimson field).
The colonel's color of some bodies of the Royal House was in crimson silk instead of white.
The regiments of cavalry and dragoons had banners and handsets with the same ornaments, but with a red background instead of white.
The provincial regiments color had the four corners of the province and colonel's color had the province arms symbols in the corners in addition to indicating the name of the regiment.
In 1787 , the center of the Colonel's flag had the royal arms surmounted by a crown ( gold and purple ) surrounded by a trophy of flags and military arms painted in gold, and the line infantry flags were white background with each face having a red Burgundy cross that was from corner to corner.
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(Has examples of the provinces arms and how the flags were laid out)

zebra77 Inactive Member04 Jun 2016 1:42 a.m. PST

Nice links, were the Burgundian crosses like the Spanish ones with "ragged"edges ?

Ken.

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