peterx | 17 Jun 2015 9:48 a.m. PST |
Mad Max is a post-apocalyptic anti-hero with some heroic aspects, or a hero with some anti-heroic aspects. Are there any other anti-hero types from science fiction, fantasy or history that you believe are the embodiment of the anti-hero? |
mad monkey 1 | 17 Jun 2015 9:54 a.m. PST |
Kane. Elric of Melnibone. Josey Wales. The Man with No Name. Yojimbo. Dirty Harry. Sir Harry Flashman. |
x42brown | 17 Jun 2015 10:00 a.m. PST |
slippery Jim Digriz Lucifer (DC comics) John Constantine x42 Edit:- I think this will be a very long list as all the best heroes are flawed in some way. Kev Hawkins Jack of Shadows Sam (lord of Light) |
PrivateSnafu | 17 Jun 2015 10:02 a.m. PST |
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Weasel | 17 Jun 2015 10:04 a.m. PST |
Elric from Michael Moorcock's stories. Deckard from Blade Runner? (At least he isn't much of a hero) |
JezEger | 17 Jun 2015 10:09 a.m. PST |
Kratos from the God of War video game series. Batman from the graphic novels, who is more of a pyscho than most of his enemies. |
JimSelzer | 17 Jun 2015 10:10 a.m. PST |
Lord Soth Hellboy Han Solo Tyrion Lannister Indiana Jones Darryl from walking dead |
BaldLea | 17 Jun 2015 10:19 a.m. PST |
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Patrick Sexton | 17 Jun 2015 10:24 a.m. PST |
Julian would just be a 'non-hero'. |
Martin Rapier | 17 Jun 2015 10:26 a.m. PST |
Well, we all like our heroes to be flawed don't we, the maverick detective who doesn't follow the rules etc. Darth Vader, so much more interesting than boring Luke. Sir Lancelot Many historical leaders, who frequently exhibit extreme psycopathic traits. Napoleon, Caeser, Lenin, Trotsky…and dare we even go there…Hitler… As the Stranglers observed, no more heroes any more. |
Coelacanth | 17 Jun 2015 10:31 a.m. PST |
Batman's an anti-hero. Ron |
boy wundyr x | 17 Jun 2015 10:34 a.m. PST |
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Keelhauled | 17 Jun 2015 10:39 a.m. PST |
Thomas Covanant the Unbeliever |
John Treadaway | 17 Jun 2015 10:51 a.m. PST |
Joachim Steuben from the Slammer's books. Mind you, Alois Hammer himself isn't terribly nice either, but less, er… 'driven' than Steuben. Khan Noonian Sing ("get me someone cheaper than Riccardo Montalban!"). Not very heroic, perhaps, but…. certain admirable qualities. John T |
79thPA | 17 Jun 2015 11:04 a.m. PST |
Conan Mike Hammer Philip Marlowe |
dandiggler | 17 Jun 2015 11:08 a.m. PST |
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15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 17 Jun 2015 11:09 a.m. PST |
Riddick Machete Spike (Cowboy Bebop) Vash the Stampede Angel (BTVS) Frank Castle |
Dark Fable | 17 Jun 2015 11:16 a.m. PST |
Cant believe no one said Snake Plissken! |
The Beast Rampant | 17 Jun 2015 11:22 a.m. PST |
Darryl from walking dead Darryl is not an anti-hero. Other than being gruff and largely anti-social, he is a hero. RICK has over time become very much an anti-hero. |
Insomniac | 17 Jun 2015 11:46 a.m. PST |
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Hades wolf | 17 Jun 2015 12:15 p.m. PST |
Roy Batty from Bladerunner |
tberry7403 | 17 Jun 2015 12:21 p.m. PST |
Most of the "Magnificent Seven". |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 17 Jun 2015 1:04 p.m. PST |
Greymouser Pancho Villa Robin Hood |
javelin98 | 17 Jun 2015 2:29 p.m. PST |
Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly! |
skippy0001 | 17 Jun 2015 2:32 p.m. PST |
John Wick Victor von Doom…sometimes. |
Cyrus the Great | 17 Jun 2015 2:33 p.m. PST |
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Zephyr1 | 17 Jun 2015 2:38 p.m. PST |
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TNE2300 | 17 Jun 2015 3:44 p.m. PST |
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IanKHemm | 17 Jun 2015 3:47 p.m. PST |
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DS6151 | 17 Jun 2015 3:53 p.m. PST |
The Punisher. Lord Soth isn't an anti-hero, he's just a villain. Lots of the listed characters here are just villains. I don't think some folks understand what an anti-hero is. |
Lion in the Stars | 17 Jun 2015 4:32 p.m. PST |
Tony Stark, before he perfects the Iron Man suit. |
79thPA | 17 Jun 2015 4:33 p.m. PST |
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KSmyth | 17 Jun 2015 6:48 p.m. PST |
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charles popp | 17 Jun 2015 6:59 p.m. PST |
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Stealth1000 | 17 Jun 2015 11:11 p.m. PST |
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Cattle Dog | 17 Jun 2015 11:22 p.m. PST |
George Taylor (Charlton Heston), Planet of the Apes Regards Allan |
CCollins | 18 Jun 2015 4:34 a.m. PST |
V Rincewind Jayne Cobb Definitely Thomas Covenant Blackadder |
Feet up now | 18 Jun 2015 11:17 a.m. PST |
Tank girl Sharpe Flash Jack Sparrow Joan of arc El Cid Buffy Rambo A Team There is one more to remember 'Chuck Norris' |
Richard Humm | 18 Jun 2015 12:05 p.m. PST |
Nikolai Dante is probably the 2000AD example of the anti-hero. |
joshuaslater | 18 Jun 2015 7:09 p.m. PST |
Bruner the bounty hunter. |
SCAdian | 18 Jun 2015 10:12 p.m. PST |
Jonathan E. from Rollerball (the original 1975 movie not the remake mess) John Taylor from the Simon R. Green Nightside series and Shotgun Suzie (eventually) |
Patrick R | 19 Jun 2015 4:07 a.m. PST |
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PistolPete | 19 Jun 2015 6:10 a.m. PST |
@feetup > joan of arc is not anti-hero, she was very pious and highly devout. cool hand luke bullit |
axabrax | 19 Jun 2015 6:31 a.m. PST |
Are you serious? How about we list off every romantic heroine or every wise old man? Or how about we just throw up random lists of people we've heard of? ;-) |
Der Krieg Geist | 19 Jun 2015 7:21 a.m. PST |
I would disagree with Batman and Vash the Stampede but Cudel from Dying Earth, that is an anti-hero if I ever encountered one |
Weasel | 19 Jun 2015 5:52 p.m. PST |
Cugel for sure :-) I recall from an interview somewhere (Dragonsfoot?) that Gygax gave Cugel as an example of what a Chaotic Evil player character would look like. Vash doesn't seem like an anti-hero to me. He's not a big fighter but he genuinely intends well for others. |
Twoball Cane | 19 Jun 2015 7:56 p.m. PST |
Punisher I guess the Govenor was an anti hero for a few episodes before he got his golf swing down pat Does George Castanza from Seinfeld count? Conan The Goon |
Parzival | 21 Jun 2015 7:43 a.m. PST |
The anti-hero is not simply a hero with flaws; that's just called "effective characterization." Nor is the anti-hero the villain, or antagonist, of the tale (though a traditional or even accepted villain can become the anti-hero of a particular story). No, the anti-hero is simply the hero that does not act or express the expected notions of heroism, nobility, or morality, and may in fact speak against them and even society as a whole, but nevertheless acts to protect or aid others, possibly even against his or her own stated intention or self-interests. Kelly's Heroes are anti-heroes. They don't give a crap about the reasons for the war, and they consider the patriotic stuff just a bunch of BS. What they want is gold. They aren't killing the enemy because the enemy is bad, they're killing the enemy because he has the gold. Yes, they wind up advancing the war effort and liberating a French town from the Nazis, but that's just an accidental by product of their dissatisfaction and greed. Han Solo is thus an anti-hero: "I ain't in it for your revolution, sister. I expect to be paid." But Batman is not. He's a flawed hero, but his motivation is altruistic and pro-society, with little thought of self. He is therefore a hero in the true sense. |
nevals | 21 Jun 2015 5:02 p.m. PST |
Most of Clint Eastwood's characters, starting with Blondie. |
Mattw3385 | 21 Jun 2015 11:16 p.m. PST |
Corbin Dallas Solid & Naked snake Duke Nukem Max Payne Paul Kersey Remo Williams Steve Austin Rooster Cogburn Han Solo Omar Little |