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Tango0103 Jun 2015 9:44 p.m. PST

"A piece of technology I did not know was in use as early as it was. Of course, now I want to put a few of these on my Weird WW2 German Vehicles. Here is a great mockup of a turret mounted launcher on an E-100 Maus…"

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Amicalement
Armand

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP04 Jun 2015 8:21 a.m. PST

Yeah, I am sure they used these plenty of times. Along with their anti-gravity bells and stratosphere skipping intercontinental bombers.

Which is why the nazis won…oh wait, they did not even come in second.

Landorl04 Jun 2015 8:23 a.m. PST

That would have been interesting. The problem that Germany had was that they developed the coolest toys, but the production was so difficult that they couldn't get them into the fight.

Good thing for the allies though!

Fatman04 Jun 2015 8:48 a.m. PST

Richard Baber
Errr there was an article scenario with these in the Journal some years back. Admittedly the ground mount but the Maus and E 100 were other options for the Germans. Deleted by Moderator

Fatman

Zargon04 Jun 2015 10:25 a.m. PST

Huh? The guy did say Weird WW2 German Vehicles, pretty sure he's no Deleted by Moderator just into alternative WW2, what's the issue RB?

Tango0104 Jun 2015 10:43 a.m. PST

Deleted by Moderator How we arrived at THAT?.

It's for Weird WW2 and a valid article…

Maybe it's a joke I don't understand? (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Richard Baber04 Jun 2015 10:46 a.m. PST

Armand

Shouldn`t have been cross-posted then (sorry I snapped) :(

Neil, nothing to do with me though, I only edited the magazine, no censorship under my watch :)

I`ll get my coat…………..

Fatman04 Jun 2015 11:23 a.m. PST

It was before your watch Rich,way back in the Mark Wheeler days I think. It was actually a fun scenario with the Russians over running the Whermachts weapons test facility.

I understand the frustration with the
"Nazis are so cool!" crowd but personally I don't mind Weird WWII stuff being crossposted as it lets me see some nice toys.

Fatman

Earl of the North04 Jun 2015 1:25 p.m. PST

I can see why there is a little bit of anger, since the Weird WW2 Board was created mainly because of complaints of historical WW2 gamers about this stuff being posted to the WW2 Boards in the first place……back then it was usually crossposted to the Sci-fi Boards and the WW2 Boards.

YoursInaWhiteWineSauce04 Jun 2015 2:14 p.m. PST

As the actual author of the original blog post which this came from, I suggest you actually look at the tags placed on it in the first place, those being:

*Weird World War 2
*Paper Panzers
*Wonderwaffen

All with a view of considering what other types of armaments might be available in the fictional world of the game "Secrets of the Third Reich 1949", based on the ACTUAL development of the X-7 missile.

Its pretty clear if you go to the linked page and read it…

christot04 Jun 2015 2:25 p.m. PST

too tired to google on this, but just out of vague interest; what date did the first Soviet or US atgms actually enter service?

YoursInaWhiteWineSauce04 Jun 2015 2:36 p.m. PST

My Google-fu tells me that:

The first ATGM used by the US was actually of French manufacture, and was based on the German X-7. The French developed it from 1948 and brought it into service in 1955. The US adopted it in 1958.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS.10

The Russian followed up later with the bulkier 3M6, more commonly known by its NATO designation of AT-1. Accepted into service in 1960.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M6_Shmel

mkenny04 Jun 2015 9:16 p.m. PST

They would have been better employed designing a harness so they could fire it from the back of a a horse. Another 'design' that they never found a way to make work and was years away from reality but still finds its way into the folklore of 1946 wunderwaffen. Given the number of post-war weapons said to be 'developed' from German designs you have to wonder how the Allies managed to manufacture even a working torch in WW2!

Tango0104 Jun 2015 11:26 p.m. PST

Richard… no harm here. (smile)

I'm not interested in which forums you turned off Tango 2 3, imho it was of possible interest to read about this in this forum.

See that people show some kind of interest.

Why you better stop to snipper me?.

I'm getting tired of it.

Amicalement
Armand

deephorse05 Jun 2015 1:59 a.m. PST

They would have been better employed designing a harness so they could fire it from the back of a a horse

Picturing that has given me the best laugh I've had all day. Mind you I've only recently woken up!

MCV 8005 Jun 2015 3:13 a.m. PST

Dear Tango01,

you may should give Ditto Tango 2 3 words another thought.
IMO he has a good point saying that such cross-postings are not necessary.
For sure there are people who are interested in your posts and at last in this specific one as well but I also do not see the need to litter more than the suited Message Boards with it.

Cheers,
Benjamin

YoursInaWhiteWineSauce05 Jun 2015 5:01 a.m. PST

Funny how some are so quick to flame and snipe with nasty 'fan boy' comments, but the opportunity for some kind of apology is filled with….silence…

nazrat05 Jun 2015 6:51 a.m. PST

Um, he DID apologize, and quickly. Got Dawghoused for his trouble as well, unfortunately.

Griefbringer05 Jun 2015 8:31 a.m. PST

They would have been better employed designing a harness so they could fire it from the back of a a horse.

I wouls suggest a bicycle-drawn cart may have been easier to maintain and had a lower profile. Plus then it could be accompanied by a few other bicycles with panzerfaust racks for close defense.

Had the Germans developed this earlier on, they would have probably tried mounting it on a captured French vehicle chassis.

Clays Russians05 Jun 2015 10:07 a.m. PST

5th Alabama bicycle lancer in combat against the 888th Wehrmacht typewriter repair battalion, FOW scenario

John the Greater05 Jun 2015 10:54 a.m. PST

Those Schreibmaschine Reparatur Bataillone were pretty tough.

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