MH Dee | 30 May 2015 12:38 p.m. PST |
Was just idling milling this over – do you prefer photographs of miniatures or artwork (painting etc) on the covers of rules? I was thinking this after seeing the cover of the new Spearhead WW1 rules. I much preferred the old artwork cover. I'm not sure exactly why I prefer artwork on rules covers, guess it's because some mini photography is often less evocative of a period than an nice painting. And especially period stuff – -I really like the DBM covers, nicely minimalist too. Well? Anyone have a preference? |
Mako11 | 30 May 2015 12:44 p.m. PST |
Either is fine by me, as long as it looks nice. I like nicely drawn, line art too. |
Giuseppe Rava | 30 May 2015 12:48 p.m. PST |
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clibinarium | 30 May 2015 12:53 p.m. PST |
There was a time I'd have said miniatures, but now that the internet is full of pictures of nice minis, I prefer to see good artwork on the front. |
KTravlos | 30 May 2015 1:19 p.m. PST |
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MH Dee | 30 May 2015 1:22 p.m. PST |
Period photographs too – the Battlegroup covers are gorgeous. |
warwell | 30 May 2015 1:37 p.m. PST |
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rjones69 | 30 May 2015 1:54 p.m. PST |
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Mute Bystander | 30 May 2015 3:38 p.m. PST |
Pictures of miniatures belong in book and online but for rule books I prefer art unless it is exceptionally evocative pictures of miniatures in a game. |
45thdiv | 30 May 2015 6:07 p.m. PST |
Artwork for the cover, but i think miniatures in the body of the rules to show examples of movement or such. |
(Phil Dutre) | 31 May 2015 2:42 a.m. PST |
Artwork – but most artwork used on wargaming covers or boxed sets is rather unimaginative. Usually it's the stereotypical bunch of guys preparing for an assault or charge (or maniacally unloading their guns on some invisible target), with one guy frantically shouting while looking "in the camera", and lifting his arm up to motion the others forwards. Especially FOW and Bolt Action are prone to these stereotypical depictions. That kind of cover looks more like a comic-book cover from the 60s. Why not use real artwork? I.e. actual historical paintings that depict how contemporary artists saw the conflict? I think wargaming books should take more inspiration from books on military history rather than from comic books or video games. |
Ottoathome | 31 May 2015 5:54 a.m. PST |
I'm with Phil on this one. On my rules for the 18th century "Mon Dieu, tout saif un sixe!" I use two paintngs of Frederick the Great and Napooleon. The first is by Pesne, the second by David of Napoleon in his study. On the rules for the 17th century (Todo meno sei) I use Velasquez' The Lances. On the 16th century (Tutto trani una sei" it its from the Renaissance. My campaign rules for the 18th century have a photograph, of a porcelean figure of Madame Du Barry dressed "alla Turca" with a masque in her hand. I agree with you Phil when you say "I think wargaming books should take more inspiration from books on military history rather than from comic books or video games. I made the "Du Barry" picture the logo for this week's "The Weekend" convention. After all with the theme of "The 18th Century the Wars of Lace and Mistresses" what would be more appropriate. I don't know about you but I'd much rather be Contretanzing with DuBarry than marching about some muddy field. But in the end, what I REALLY think is that a set of war game rules is an instruction manual and no different than one that tells you how to change a tire on your car or operate a can opener. I'd eliminate the art entirely and just use it to better explain the game. I put the art in it simply because I like art -- real art, and if I can squeeze it in as filler- that's the filler I use. |
MH Dee | 31 May 2015 7:55 a.m. PST |
I would agree that period artwork fits it quite well, and I really don't like the FOW cover art either – to me it looks almost distasteful, and a little too Hollywood. Interesting about rules being an instruction manual – I quite like the development towards rules as books, something that is nice to read, use *and* have on your shelf. It's fascinating that wargamers can be so aesthetically inclined towards the miniatures, yet not feel the same about the other tools of the hobby. |
Weasel | 31 May 2015 11:40 a.m. PST |
Art is expensive, photos are not :-) |
Giuseppe Rava | 31 May 2015 12:50 p.m. PST |
The art boosts the sales and makes your item unique. |
rjones69 | 31 May 2015 1:14 p.m. PST |
I quite like the development towards rules as books, something that is nice to read, use *and* have on your shelf. I completely agree, MH Dee, with the concept of a rules set as a book. And as you put it so well, as a book a rules set has both utilitarian value – you read and use it – and aesthetic value – it looks nice on the shelf. And there's not an inherent contradiction between utility (the "instructional manual" aspect) and the aesthetic aspect. It's like a well-designed family automobile, for example. It's a means of transportation, and so the fundamental factors are the automobile's safety, performance and reliability. That doesn't mean, however, that the car can't also be pleasing to the eye, and be designed with that aesthetic consideration in mind. It doesn't have to be flashy, and certainly should never be vulgar or tasteless, but it certainly can be designed to be beautiful. |