"What the Differences 20mm from 15mm?" Topic

So what is the differences between 15mm and 20mm, I know most 15mm are closer to 18mm in many cases. So could one use 20mm figures along with 15mm with out seeing much of a big change in size?

Does anyone have picture showing such differences?

I see many figures in 20mm on many sites, that I would love to use
in areas that I cross posted too, but I don't want to buy a few just to find out there are just the wrong size!

So what is the differences between 15mm and 20mm,

15mm are somewhere between 1/100 and 1/97, 20mm are typically 1/76 or 1/72.

So could one use 20mm figures along with 15mm with out seeing much of a big change in size?

No.

20mm would be Ogres to 15mm Humans

As 15s are 18mm 20s are more like 23-24mm. So they are massively different sizes and could never work together.

Thank You all for the information saves me a heart ache, of buy some thing just to find out it wouldn't work well together !

There are a few in 20mm range I just wish some one would make in the 15mm range, I will just have to wait until someday they are in 15mm.

It might help if you said what it was you have found in 20mm that you would like to see in 15mm?

IIRC, 20mm figures only started being called that as the '25mm' lead figures got bigger and bigger.

1/72 was used as being one inch = 6 foot so a just under 6' man would be 25mm tall.
1/76 is 4mm to the foot, so a 20mm figure would be 5' but a 25 mm just over 6'.

Most (if not all) manufacturers measure to the eye height, not the top of the head. The best information available on scale is this TMP page:

TMP link

More here: link

I have used Peter Pig 15mm as 'boy soldiers' for my African wars…..in with my 20 mm collection ( re armed with 20 mm weapons etc)

In addition to the height difference, 20mm is usually sculpted in a slimmer,more realistic style, with finer detail. 15mm is sculpted in the more typical, stylized wargame style, with exaggerated features and details (which make them easier to paint distinguish from a distance.

In short, they do not mix, at least IMHO.

In ancient, medieval, ECW and WWII (the periods I know) Peter Pig figures are pretty much typical, middl-ish 15mm (so about 17mm to the top of the head/15-ish sole to eye) …

So that ACW pic is a bit of an eye-opener.

For moderns, 15mm PP/QRF has pretty much everything you want, and PP makes a range of separate heads so you can make up specials … incl. say USMC in gas masks or French style matelots in pompom hats etc. etc. (just about anything you want to come up with in your what if) ..

Khurasan do some useful civilians (and I like the guys in parkas for battle on the ice) …

What is it you can't get?

Phil
P.B.Eye-Candy

Oh about 5mm's

Ivan – in 20mm I have slim-line Bandera/Liberation SCW figures, and chunky 20mm moderns from the same manufacturer. I also have B & B's charming but hefty RCW figures; so there's as great a degree of heft variation in 20mm as 28mm. Heft-wise I think 15mm is more consistent than the larger sizes; as can be seen from the above photo, it's height that's the main variable.

I was under the impression that Blue Moon and Old Glory figures were about the same height, so my belief that the current issues with OG15s don't matter because BM can be used to fill any gaps in my OG armies might need a rethink.

Most (if not all) manufacturers measure to the eye height, not the top of the head.

I will reserve my vitriol for such a stupid way to measure a man's height whether in the flesh or in metal/plastic/resin based on laziness and simply say I doubt the "all" part. I refer you to Peter Berry's article on the height of his versus other 6mm figures for a possible reason why the incompatibility exists.

baccus6mm.com/FAQ – starting with:

ARE BACCUS FIGURES COMPATIBLE WITH X, Y & Z?
The emphasis on this question is wrong. To my way of thinking it should be rephrased as, 'Are x, y, and z's figures compatible with Baccus?' It is really difficult to be objective about this as I judge other people's ranges by my standards. The following picture shows samples from mine, Irregular's and Heroics ranges.

Edit: Read the last sentence, it sums size/scale differences up succinctly!

So if we are all making 6mm figures, why aren't mine exactly the same as the others, so you can mix and match across the ranges?
Well, I started making my own figures because none of the ranges available to me gave me what I wanted:

Heroics have a vast range, and in many ways are the 'standard' for this scale. However, they are not 'true' 6mm figures. They were designed as 1/300th scale models, and so are smaller than the nominal 6mm in both height and bulk, measuring as little as 4.5mm foot to eye. I suppose the easiest comparison to make is between a nominal 25mm figure of today and the 'equivalent' 1/72nd plastic ranges. Their slightness of stature means that there is little or no detail on the castings. Remember when someone tells you that Baccus figures are 'huge' in comparison to Heroics, it is not my figures that are grossly oversize, it is that the objects of comparison are actually smaller than the perceived scale.
Now depending on your point of view their smooth form and poor detail makes these figures either a dream or an absolutely cow to paint. As I am firmly in the latter camp, I designed figures with lots of clean, raised detail – a fact appreciated by many.
So, I wanted figures that were larger than 5mm in size and had lots of detail – as a result, there was no chance of mine being like Heroics!

Irregular also have a vast range, and with more bulk and height are actually 6mm in scale. However, I did not like their fixed basing and I believed that I could produce castings that carried more and better defined detail. So, no chance of mine being like Irregular!

Adler figures are incredibly well designed, animated and detailed. However, they are considerably larger than 6mm, and their very distinctive styling is not to everyone's taste.

In essence, Baccus figures are my interpretation of what a 6mm figure should be. To have purposely chosen to make my figures match other people's ranges would have meant that I would now be turning out what would effectively be copies of Heroics or Irregular or Adler miniatures – something I was not inclined to do.

Figure design is an Art, not a Science. Every artist sees things differently, as does every designer.

It might help if you said what it was you have found in 20mm that you would like to see in 15mm?

Elhiem Figures elhiemfigures.com has a lot of figure that I would love to add to my growing horde of 15's

Tis funny that on one section of TMP there is a discussion about courtesy and good manners on the internet, using a little politeness and humor to make a point rather than angry sounding 'your an idiot' type phrasing but he ho always the same……….
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I used a Raventhorpe 20mm mini as a 7'4" soldier with a bunch of 15mm troops. He's literally head-and-shoulders above the Peter Pig and Battlefront minis I'm using for the rest of the unit.

Works for a lot of anime-inspired forces, actually.