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carojon24 May 2015 11:57 p.m. PST

Hi all,
The British Heavy Cavalry brigade under Major General Henry Fane at Talavera is complete with the addition of the 3rd Dragoon Guards.

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Brigaded with the 4th Dragoons, the two regiments had opposed each other in an earlier conflict, but found themselves united during Wellesley's first campaign into Spain.

If you would like to know more then just follow the link to JJ's

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Jonathan

Eclipsing Binaries25 May 2015 1:41 a.m. PST

I like the way you've painted your bicornes. I can never get my blacks looking good like that. They always end up looking grey to my eyes.

Phil the french25 May 2015 2:24 a.m. PST

Absolutly wonderful!

Edwulf25 May 2015 4:33 a.m. PST

I was just thinking the same… very effective black technique.

Maldini196625 May 2015 6:41 a.m. PST

Nice work Jon ….
Cheers
Losh

seneffe25 May 2015 8:17 a.m. PST

Lovely figures again Carojon. You've piqued my interest though In the earlier conflict in which these chaps and the 4th Dragoons were opposed. Both units, according to their regimental histories by Richard Cannon, were formed in 1685 just after the Monmouth rebellion, from independent troops raised for King James' service.

carojon26 May 2015 2:17 a.m. PST

Thanks for your comments chaps.

The black combination I use is Vajello matt black base, dark sea blue middle shade followed by Coat d'Arms dark grey to highlight.

The regimental histories are potted and taken from various sources, which I list in the post, just to provide a bit of background. Like all histories, the further back you go the more disagreement, contradiction and inaccuracy tends to crop up. I do them, because I like my units to have character rather than be just generic and feel the pain when they get shot to pieces on the table!

Cheers
JJ

Eclipsing Binaries26 May 2015 2:58 a.m. PST

I like a gamer who sees his figures as representing real people rather than bits of metal. It's too easy to throw battalion after battalion into the melee when they are nothing but playing pieces, but we should take into consideration that some real commanders would have found sending men to their deaths difficult.

That said, why is it always the unit that you spend the most time painting and treasure the most that ends up taking the worst pounding in a game?

carojon26 May 2015 3:18 a.m. PST

It has always been so, with too many examples around for it to be an urban myth.

seneffe26 May 2015 2:24 p.m. PST

The earliest published histories of both units agree they were formed from King James' side not from the rebels. Maybe a bit of tertiary source misunderstanding has crept in to the interweb more recently.

Aside from the fact that the Monmouth's 'army' wasn't in existence long enough to provide any trained troops worth taking on- James and his supporters were so determined to eradicate all traces of rebellion that any of Monmouth's surviving troopers unwise enough to come forward would soon find themselves in front of Judge Jefferys at the bloody assizes, and the gallows or the plantations depending on how nice his lunch had been.

James II was a much less forgiving and less pragmatic character than his brother Charles, who did indeed find it expedient on his accession to employ many soldiers who had fought for Parliament in the civil war.

Main point though- very nicely painted troops and your philosophy of making the units 'live' is a great one.

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