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Rod I Robertson15 May 2015 4:07 p.m. PST

To the wise folk of TMP:
Does anybody know of a company which produces Cold War era decals for Canadian forces c. 1985? It's a long shot, I know, but maybe one of you lot knows of a manufacturer which has filled this tiny niche. Nothing ventured, nothing gained so who knows, I might get lucky! Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Cheers and good gaming.
Rod Robertson.

Navy Fower Wun Seven15 May 2015 5:56 p.m. PST

And in 20mm and 6mm too please! For 4CMBG

trance15 May 2015 6:21 p.m. PST

GHQ for 6mm and almost anyone in 20mm

Jemima Fawr15 May 2015 6:39 p.m. PST

I've never seen one, though with the present rise in interest in the Cold War, one can hope…

If anyone's listening, I'd like black maple leaves with white outlines (for Leopards), plain black maple leaves of a smaller size for light AFVs and very small Canadian flags for the mudguards (in red/white and low-vis black). Some callsign numbers/letters in black would also be nice…

Generalstoner4915 May 2015 7:12 p.m. PST

Does Dom's decals do one?

Rod I Robertson15 May 2015 10:57 p.m. PST

Generalstoner49:
I searched Dom's exciting new web page, TSS/QRF and I-94 for them and could find none.
Cheers and good gaming.
Rod Robertson.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP16 May 2015 2:14 a.m. PST

Must admit I'm beginning to contemplate cold war stuff when I actually get some free time, but I'm not sure that Canadian is the obvious starting point for a range….

Navy Fower Wun Seven16 May 2015 2:42 a.m. PST

Dom – read Kenneth Macksey's 'First Contact' for heaven's sake! 4CMBG rock! Derr….

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP16 May 2015 3:59 a.m. PST

I read First Clash many years ago, and definitely rate it, but that doesn't mean there aren't a few nationalities that I probably ought to do before getting to Canucks….

GeoffQRF16 May 2015 6:08 a.m. PST

We have (or at least had, unless they are out of print or missing) colour Canadian flags, about 3mm by 2mm. Is that what you are after?

GeoffQRF16 May 2015 6:41 a.m. PST

Can't remember if I printed plain maple leaves, but they are already drawn so easy to do.

Navy Fower Wun Seven16 May 2015 3:53 p.m. PST

Hey Dom, sorry my post seems a bit harsh on a reread – no offense meant mate! And yes I take your point!

Geoff, I think the markings were black Maple leaves? Or that may have been later…must consult armoured acorn!

Rod I Robertson16 May 2015 3:56 p.m. PST

Geoff:
Both Canadian flags in red and white for mud-guards and black maple leaves with and without white trim for tank turret sides and vehicle sides. The maple leaves without trim would be smaller by a third than the white trimmed ones (2/3 the size).
I have not measured the mud guards on the Lynxes and M-113's so I'm not sure if 3 x 2mm is the right size or not. When I get home I'll check.
I need all three types so if your willing to make them available I will buy a bunch of them. This thread may work out after all!
Cheers Geoff!

Jemima Fawr16 May 2015 3:58 p.m. PST

Geoff, they need to be small enough to fit onto the mudguard of an M113.

Now I come to think of it, NATO tactical symbols in white would be good for Canadians, West Germans and a number of others.

Note the small Canadian flag here (on the left) and the very dirtied maple leaf on the driver's side:

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Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP16 May 2015 6:07 p.m. PST

I can't believe I'm making notes here…. Obviously no sense in duplicating such a niche topic, so I'll wait and see if Geoff runs with it….

Rod I Robertson16 May 2015 6:42 p.m. PST

Woo-hoo! Two possible sources. This could be my lucky day. Gotta go out and buy a lottery ticket.
Cheers Dom!

Jemima Fawr16 May 2015 10:11 p.m. PST

Oh and very small union flags for BAOR… I can't paint those Bleeped texts…

Risaldar Singh17 May 2015 7:51 a.m. PST

If you can live with 1/87 scale decals, TL-Modelbau has all of NATO, some WarPact and some neutrals here : link

Extensive Bundeswehr deals here: link

Canadians are here : link

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Highland Guerilla17 May 2015 7:52 a.m. PST

I was in 4 C.M.B.G.

GeoffQRF17 May 2015 8:14 a.m. PST

I print 20 slots at one time, usually three colours, so red, black and white. Then it's just a matter of the sizes.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP17 May 2015 11:20 a.m. PST


If you can live with 1/87 scale decals, TL-Modelbau has all of NATO, some WarPact and some neutrals here : link

Blimey, if people are paying 10 Euros a sheet for the wrong scale, maybe I should be doing something…. ;-) Geoff, are you likely to fill 20 slots to get a print run any time soon, or am I having a go at this one…? My schedule is looking reasonably free for the first time in many months (putting paid to reprint mountain over the next few days then hopefully getting some design time) so I might start nibbling at the edges of a modern range in the next few weeks. Canadian's still a ridiculous place to start, but at least there's less to cover than for Soviet…. ;-)

Dom.

Rod I Robertson17 May 2015 11:28 a.m. PST

Geoff and Dom:
What's a slot? I would be in for four to five sheets assuming each sheet has enough decals to do a half dozen vehicles. And I might buy more if the price is reasonable – note 10 quid per sheet is not reasonable.
Rod Robertson.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP17 May 2015 12:04 p.m. PST

Geoff gets his stuff contract printed in A4 pages, so can't produce "a new code", only "a batch of 10 or 20 new codes" – so whether this is an imminent prospect or a one-day-when-I-have-enough-stuff-to-go-with-it depends on whether he has another 19 sheets lined up, or indeed some number between 0 and 18….

My print process is much more time-consuming per page printed, but doesn't have the same inflexibility, so I'm more able to knock up a new sheet or three without having to schedule other stuff to go into production with it

Risaldar Singh17 May 2015 12:08 p.m. PST

Hey Dom, these are priced for people who pay through the nose for their 1/87 tanks. I'm really glad to learn that we can expect a Cold War range from you. Do you have an ETA for Norwegian recce tank markings? <G>

PS: If you had any sense, you'd be making decals for model trains… ;-)

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP17 May 2015 12:10 p.m. PST

Norwegian are firmly on my list, but not until the actual models look imminent – I draw the line at producing decals for models that don't actually exist….

PS – If I had any sense I'd not be making decals at all, but you're right that doing them for wargamers is particularly high folly…. ;-)

GeoffQRF17 May 2015 3:42 p.m. PST

Yep, as Dom says we print A4 sheets with 20 slots (20 mini sheets per A4), so it's not a case of 'just producing Canadians'. Equally a sheet has to be all the same set of colours – no point adding one extra colour just for one slot as that's an expensive way to do it.

I'll check with Sarah tomorrow what needs a reprint in black, white and red. We almost certainly can fill the slots and it's then just a case of redrawing the maple to the right colour combinations and sizes.

Rod I Robertson17 May 2015 8:30 p.m. PST

Geoff:
3 x 2 mm red and white Canadian flags will fit on M-113's mudguards and on most of the guards of your excellent Lynx model so that is probably the size to go with. Black maple leaves should be about 3-4 mm tall (including stem) and black maple leaves with white trim between 5-6 mm tall (including stem).
Cheers and good gaming.
Rod Robertson.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP18 May 2015 4:20 p.m. PST

[Notes yellow bridge weight discs as well as lo-vis black ones…]

Jemima Fawr18 May 2015 10:11 p.m. PST

Anyone know what Tim's saying…?

;)

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP19 May 2015 1:58 a.m. PST

Something about sheep botherers….

Risaldar Singh19 May 2015 11:07 a.m. PST

Tim, thanks for the heads up on the GHQ decals. Twice as big as 1/285 should make them perfect for 10mm Leopards and M113s…

Rod I Robertson19 May 2015 11:20 a.m. PST

Jemima Fawr:
Gwan! Da b'y's a Newfie so no one knows what he's takin bout alf da time! But I tink he tinks he's Jerry wid a black leaf fur an avatar, b'yo! Da last line has someting ta do wid Gagetown, New Brunswick not being in Germany.I knows you're not stun so dunna try to ken his drift.
YouTube link
Cheers and best not to fathom the mind of the Newfoundlander.
Rod Robertson

RKelly28 May 2015 4:31 p.m. PST

link

l used the above 1/87 decals on my 15mm vehicles and the fit fine.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP29 May 2015 2:33 a.m. PST

Very nice – the 113s in particular really look the part. I reckon the gap can be filled at a better price point though. (Especially if I can make sense of the call signs….)

Jemima Fawr29 May 2015 7:46 a.m. PST

There was a previous thread on the callsigns.

Jemima Fawr29 May 2015 7:47 a.m. PST

Here ya go: TMP link

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP29 May 2015 9:51 a.m. PST

Goods skills RMD – ta very muchly.

Andy Rix04 Jun 2015 2:06 p.m. PST

all things Canadian (well that I have looked at) including decals, in 20mm some already covered, for markings and colour schemes Armoured Acorn is a must check that out for markings Dom

link

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jun 2015 3:26 p.m. PST

Always my first port of call, thanks – Barry Beldam's work is the business for Canadian stuff, amongst others…. :-)

RJ Smith10 Jun 2015 9:10 a.m. PST

Add me to the list of 15mm decals for 4 CMBG (as long as my old C/S's are included). Really would like to do a Cold War 15mm 1/100 army in anticipation of what hopefully will be a nice set of playable beer and pretzel rules from FOW

Tim do you have to post pics of the Lawfield Corridor. You just erased decades of therapy.

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