"USMC uniform color and US Army Pacific uniform questions" Topic

Ok, I'm starting a WWII Pacific campaign game and I have question and I need some help on uniforms. I know the USMC had a reversible camo that they used and I think I've got that covered. My question is twofold:

First, what shade of green did the USMC use for their dungarees? It looks to be lighter and more "green" for lack of a better term than Army OD.

Second (and maybe Third) Did the US Army use Marine style uniforms in the Pacific and were they the same shade of green as their Marine counterparts?

The Army used their own uniforms (HBT fatigues), which were a different shade of green than Marine utilities.

Like all uniforms, there is a wide range of color that could be used to represent them. While the "official" more or less color of the Marine herringbones, as they were called, was a blue green color, they quickly faded to a green grey. In fact, Vallejo green grey is a dead ringer for my dad's herringbones, which, unfortunately, I only have one tattered jacket remaining. As Tachikoma says, the Army uniforms were a different color. Sorry, can't help there.

Sage green is the color and Sundance is correct: Vallejo green grey is just about perfect for it.

and they all quickly turned white ( took about 3 weeks in the field, faster if they got sea water on them first) It was a big problem that they were still overcoming in 1970.

Model Master does USMC Green in their acrylic range.

The Model Master USMC Green is much darker than Sage Green and is appropriate for Marine vehicles. The Army fatigues would be dark shade OD #7.

Ive just been looking this up myself and came up with the following.

USMC Forest Green Tamiya XF-61
HBT Greens…Vallejo Grey/Green 886
Helmets…vallejo US Dark Green 893
Cammo "Green side"…..Vallejo pastel Green (base) 885, then English Uniform921, Flat brown 984 and Russian Green 894.

US navy 5-0 Ocean Grey for LVT's ….Vallejo 903

LVTs were grey early on, but in later battles they were camouflaged.

Iwo Jima:

Marines:

Army:

Looks to me like the USMC uniform would fade to a grey hue, while the Army uniform would have more hints of olive green left in it.

~iPaint

You could also try USMC Tankcrew from Vallejo's Panzer Aces line, since Marine tank crews wore the same uniform as the infantry.

Shipboard 'newbies'would toss their HBTs in a seabag
while underway ,rope tie 'em and toss into the Pacific.This would give the utilities a "I'm not an FNG" 'salty'
look.

I spent a long time trying to get the uniform color correct, and I think i nailed it!
I used 3 Vallejo Colors:
Green Grey 70.886
Off-White 70.820
Black 70.950
Citadel Lahmian Medium (to create wash)

1. painted whole uniform in Green Grey.
2. painted whole uniform in Green Grey 40% & Off-White 60% (very watery)
3. Create a wash using Lahmian Medium with a very small drop of Green Grey & an even smaller drop of the Black and give the whole uniform a wash using this.
3. Then high-light as required using a mix of Green Grey 40% & Off-White 60%.

The finish really resembled number4's photo above.
The was a test figure, I'll post a completed one later.

Would the 6th Ranger battalion have worn the regular OD Army uniform? I've seen different uniforms on ETO Rangers from early 1944 but after the refit what would they have worn there, and would the Pacific Rangers have been different?

My understanding is US Rangers in Tunisia and then on into Italy had both the HBT and regular OD uniform. Typcially wore the wool shirt rather than the jacket with the OD uniform during cold desert nights.

Army HBTs were a working uniform designed to be worn over the wool shirt and trousers to protect them from damage. In the Pacific they were typically worn without the wool underneath due to the climate. In the ETO, a new uniform (the M43) began to be issued in 1944, so the Rangers may have been issued that upon being refit.

the Armory colors were the BEST for marine colors, not sure if theyre around anymore and shelf life wasnt good