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deephorse01 May 2015 9:17 a.m. PST

I collect all the WoG/WoW aircraft but play games using the Canvas Eagles rules. Very unsportingly Ares are producing more and more aircraft that I have to have but for which there are no Canvas Eagle manoeuvre sheets.

Has anyone found a straightforward way to transfer a WoG manoeuvre deck code to a Canvas Eagle manoeuvre sheet? I can see a theoretical way to do it but it looks like a lot of work. If anyone has already done something like this I would be pleased to hear from you. Otherwise a lot of work it is!

Thank you.

TunnelRat Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2015 11:54 a.m. PST

Which aircraft are you looking for? Canvas Eagles has an extensive catalogue of aircraft manoeuvre sheets which should cover most aircraft needed.

inverugie01 May 2015 11:55 a.m. PST

I've gone the other way I'm afraid. I started out using 1/72 kits for Canvas Eagles but am converting to 1/144 as WoG produces more pieces for the period & theatre that I'm attracted to (Western Front 1917-18).

deephorse01 May 2015 3:24 p.m. PST

TunnelRat, that's precisely it. I have all the sheets and they do cover most aircraft, but not all. E.g. One of Ares' more recent models is the Macchi M.5, but Canvas Eagles doesn't have a sheet for it.

inverugie, there's no need to give up C.E. Just because you've gone for WoG models (if that is what you were saying). We play C.E. with Ares' 1/144 models.

Anyway, I may have found my own answer. WoG Aerodrome has a file section that members can download from. I found at least part of the solution there.

NappyBuff01 May 2015 11:00 p.m. PST

When using the WoG 1:144 models, do you use altitude in your games? If so, how do you show this?

deephorse02 May 2015 2:08 a.m. PST

Altitude is an essential part of Canvas Eagles. There are ten altitude bands and we use a numbered chit or counter on the model's base to show what altitude it is at.

fantasque02 May 2015 5:00 a.m. PST

a little offtopic but do the CE players here use the fuel rules as written? In my games I found that games tended to end due to fuel rather than anything else. Planes with low fuel supplies are at a big disadvantage – opponent can dance around for a few turns till fuel runs out then bag the kill when thei low fuel plane needs to turn for home

deephorse02 May 2015 7:08 a.m. PST

We don't play the fuel rules for that very reason.

The Young Guard06 May 2015 3:02 p.m. PST

What size hexes do you use?

deephorse08 May 2015 3:33 p.m. PST

It's not my mat so I can't go and measure it, but I thnk they are 3". A WoG fighter base fits comfortably inside one.

BTW I now have a Macchi M.5 Canvas Eagles .pdf sheet, and it was much easier than I first thought.

HobbyGuy20 Sep 2016 1:37 p.m. PST

Deephorse, how did you create it? I'd be interested to know.

"It's not my mat so I can't go and measure it, but I thnk they are 3". A WoG fighter base fits comfortably inside one.

BTW I now have a Macchi M.5 Canvas Eagles .pdf sheet, and it was much easier than I first thought."

NKL AeroTom21 Sep 2016 4:46 a.m. PST

You could potentially try our Dogfight! rules, covers most of the aircraft available in WW1. Doesn't require a hex mat, and fuel is not tracked. Air speed and Altitude are, both with 6 bands, so its easy to track on a D6

link

Quite a simple system, but still accurate to WW1 dogfights. pilot quality, recon, bombing and zeppelins all factor in!

deephorse27 Sep 2016 4:20 a.m. PST

Hobbyguy,

I used Paint Shop Pro and a little Googling. If you are prepared to put an email address here, suitably disguised, I'll send you a copy.

Poniatowski Supporting Member of TMP29 Sep 2016 4:40 a.m. PST

We play extensively CE…. (some have bounced to Check your 6 WW1)… I started with 1/72 and moved to 1/144th because of the more realistic feel in a 5" hex…. those who play know what I am talking about.

Anyway….
1. on flight stands…. it is a very pretty game indeed when you can find the antennas to make your 10 tier stands… you used to be able to find them at radio shack… now, you can find them as replacement antennas for RC vehicles, so RC stores can order them. The price is not bad. The Ares planes easily convert over to use with the antenna stands and the games are VERY pretty and there is NEVER any confusion on altitude…

2. On rare aircraft… yes, the website for CE has some links and thoughts on templates for planes not covered.

3. On fuel…. we use it…. I find it a little light in box amounts being that the fuel use vs the length of a game turn seem a tad off…. Realistically though…. fuel affects BOTH sides in the game…. learn how to play with it and plan for it…. learn how to swoop and climb and burn off speed for altitude, etc…. it makes the game a lot more realistic…. just a thought… not a command.

4. The ONLY real deviation we use from CE is the ACE rules… not sure which system they came form.. maybe even derived form CY6 WW1 or 2…. but they rock… they make the game all that more interesting. PM me if you want to know more.. I will have to ask or get the rules scanned in so you can get copies.

5. Thought I would throw this in too… planes… at 1/144 scale, the lead planes available are numerous indeed!!! Skytrex (Red Eagle), Reviersco, Wings of War and even 3D printed… I love the lead kits, at times they are fiddily, but they are very durable and paint up very nicely…. I use a combination of all of them. Skytrex has some very awesome resin and lead larger kits…. and now, WoW and 3d printing is making them possible too.

There are many options out there, find one you like and run with it. WW1 air war is my favorite era to game… I just wish I could do it more!!!!! Id I get some more done up, I will have be running some pick up games at Fall-IN! 2016.

Now, one more thing… Mats…. for those playing CE.. you need hexes…. there are some really great mats out there! If I remember correctly, I bought 2 mats from Honorable Lead Boiler Suit Company…. but they are Hotz mats I believe… they are awesome…. I trimmed the edges so they can be used together without the white border.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member11 Dec 2016 4:26 a.m. PST

A bit late to the party, but we use CE with 1/144th scale aircraft at the local club, with telescoping flight stands as well.

Great fun!

No need to convert CE to/from WoW/WoG, in my opinion.

We have used the fuel rules occasionally, but most of the time we forego those.

Knight's Cross is the WWII variant, and recommended too.

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