"British (English) semi-automatic rifle or carbine in 1919?" Topic
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 Bobgnar  | 29 Apr 2015 1:15 p.m. PST |
In the interesting Netflix series Peaky Blinders there is mention of a robbery of weapons meant for Libya (for rebels of Omar Mukhtar or Italians?). These were taken from English Factory – BSA. The haul included Lewis Guns and "semi-automatic rifles" later called "carbines." What would be this semi-automatic rifle made in UK in 1919? |
| Cerdic | 29 Apr 2015 1:49 p.m. PST |
I'm no expert, but it sounds like a scriptwriter not knowing what he is talking about to me. Someone will probably be along in a minute and prove me wrong though…. |
| Weasel | 29 Apr 2015 1:59 p.m. PST |
Might be made up.
Though they could well be foreign weapons, like the Mexican Mondragon.
A number of those were manufactured by the Swiss, bought by the Germans from where they could have ended up in English hands. |
| DyeHard | 29 Apr 2015 3:36 p.m. PST |
Only two come to mind.
And I would not call either "carbines", but perhaps. The Farquhar-Hill rifle of 1915:
link and the Mondragón rifle M1908 which is Mexican (a leader in gun design at the time)but could have been made under license.
link BSA made the Lewis gun 1914:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_gun |
| Weasel | 29 Apr 2015 4:37 p.m. PST |
Didn't the French issue a self-loading rifle in WW1 as well? |
| Sgt Troy | 29 Apr 2015 5:35 p.m. PST |
Could this be the BSA 1926? A deriative of the Thompson in
9mm or 7.63mm. In Britain it would have been called a machine carbine. I know it's later than 1919 but just a thought. |
| doug redshirt | 30 Apr 2015 4:50 a.m. PST |
The Russians also had a semi-auto rifle before WWI. |
 Jeff Ewing | 30 Apr 2015 7:31 a.m. PST |
Thanks for that Farquhar-Hill link, DyeHard. Most interesting. French semi-auto (production ended 1918): link Russian (1916): link Some others: link |
| Bobgnar | 30 Apr 2015 9:56 a.m. PST |
Thanks for all the great examples of possibilities. In my wildest imagination I was thinking that maybe BSA had gotten some examples of Thompson trench sweepers for study and this is what they were talking about. As noted BSA did make a version of the Tommy gun, but when did they get their Proto types.
link IRA had gotten their hands on some of these, so maybe not too far-fetched. The Farquhar Hill is a good possibility but as noted hardly a carbine. I'll have to put a couple of these into my VBC W collection. |
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