JD Lee | 26 Apr 2015 7:25 a.m. PST |
I am new to this era. I am doing a Waterloo scenario in 15mm. I need know what colors to paint the French and English artillery? Are all the barrels bronze? What would the carriages colors be? Thanks |
JimDuncanUK | 26 Apr 2015 8:31 a.m. PST |
French will be French Artillery Green with black fittings and bronze barrels. English (You really mean British) will be grey (a sort of blue-ish grey), black fittings and bronze barrels. Any decent paint range will have Napoleonic sets of paints. Some pictures here: link link |
Jcfrog | 26 Apr 2015 9:41 a.m. PST |
Afaik only the Austrians commonly had iron barrels or at least that look dark grey/ black iron. |
JD Lee | 26 Apr 2015 9:48 a.m. PST |
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John Armatys | 26 Apr 2015 2:05 p.m. PST |
This page is a very good guide to painting artillery of all nations: link |
Supercilius Maximus | 27 Apr 2015 11:49 p.m. PST |
JDL, I would be wary of two things – making the French guns too "green" and making the British guns too "blue". This book by Franklin states that British guns were painted with white lead oxide, giving a very pale grey with no hint of blue in it (the latter seems to be a wargamerism). link The French colour was obtained by mixing yellow ochre with a very, very small amount of black. The result appears to vary quite a bit according to the quality of the light, from a light grey-green to a tan or even a yellow in direct sunlight, but looks different from most commercial paints produced for the hobby. YouTube link YouTube link link |
von Winterfeldt | 28 Apr 2015 10:36 a.m. PST |
Austrians had brass gun barrels, it was a translation error by Dave Hollins which caused the misconception of iron gun barrels, all brass gun barrels will darken by use. As to French Artillery green, in the older days it was grey and only gradually during the wars the "green" became more dominant. |
summerfield | 29 Apr 2015 8:21 a.m. PST |
Dear All British artillery has never been painted as blue grey. This has been perpectuated over the last 40 years due to poor colour correction of photography. British artillery was medium grey in this period. Franklin is referring to the 1850 shade and not that made with lampblack and white lead which was nearer to medium grey. Interesting white lead darken with exposure to gunpowder and the gaseous products. All bronze gun barrels should be painted as brass even the Austrians. Only the Swedes who used iron artillery for some batteries should be black. Stephen |
4th Cuirassier | 02 May 2015 3:01 p.m. PST |
Humbrol matt Ocean Grey is the closest in that range for British artillery. ISTR this was Humbrol's own conclusion based on an actual chip made up from the original formula. I don't remember where I read this, but I have definitely read that British (and presumably everyone else's) gun tyres were left unpainted, because the paint wore off in about 5 minutes anyway. The bare metal was polished with sand, so they had, in effect, brightwork on the wheel rims. The end caps on the axles likewise shed their paint so they were left unpainted and were greased against rust with olive oil or similar. |
vicmagpa1 | 07 Jul 2015 4:58 p.m. PST |
what about italian guns? what color are the guns? |
138SquadronRAF | 08 Jul 2015 1:59 p.m. PST |
I don't remember where I read this, but I have definitely read that British (and presumably everyone else's) gun tyres were left unpainted, because the paint wore off in about 5 minutes anyway. The bare metal was polished with sand, so they had, in effect, brightwork on the wheel rims. The end caps on the axles likewise shed their paint so they were left unpainted and were greased against rust with olive oil or similar. My answer is to paint the out rims khaki to represent mud to give the campaigning look. Italian guns should be grey, unless Neapolitan, which are light blue. |
vicmagpa1 | 31 Jul 2015 6:33 p.m. PST |
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