"something that annoys with stargate" Topic

So at the start of season 2 of atlantis the get rail guns on the city to take down the darts. But why rail, flak guns seem much mord appropriate. Yes rails have lots of hitting power, but we know small arms fire can take them down quite easly.

So small rapid fire flak seems to have been the way to go.

And this brings me to the ships, the human ships, are out gunned. Sure their asgard type shields are very powerfull, but offencive? Rails and misssles.

Not in one episode were those effective. They always had to beam nukes on board. Only when they got asgard beam did they get a propper offencive weapon.

Just seems like they were fighting the battle of trafalger in an iron clad but with watercannons and no real weapons.

looks like your name says it all :)

What would you expect the human built ship (with a only slightly higher tech level than today) to be armed with?

Initially rail guns and missiles are the simply the most effective weapons available to be mounted on SGC ships (which lacked Asgard teleport, shields & beam) and the fighters provided the main offensive punch.

Teleporting nukes only becomes available once teleports are gifted by the Asgard and then provide an effective answer against ships lacking shields as in Atlantis.

Basically the SGC isn't well equipped to fight the Wraith because they never expected to fight them, the Atlantis ships are pretty much improved due to event happening in another galaxy.

But the Atlantis people had sent reports to SGC they knew wraiths used lots of fighters (something gua'ulds do to ) so not a new tactic.

And missiles are one thing, but rail guns? We don't have rail guns now, why mot atleast use mass drivers that are more or less big rail guns.

Rail guns are only anti fighter weapons (a job flak does better) so only missiles are anti capital ship weapons.

If they can steal gua'uld tech to make parts of the 302, 303 snd 304s why not steal the weapon parts too?

The SGC never successfully back engineered weapons tech from Goa'uld, which is why apart from captured zap gun and the Tok'ra supplied one lets you see the invisible aliens, the SGC only uses human made weaponry.

Railguns are used as anti capital ship weapons (and anti fighter weapons) in all of the SGC designs, fighters and both types of capital ship, along with tactical nuclear missiles. So I guess it makes sense that the Atlantis defense is equipped with what would be to the SGC a proven weapon system that is one of their primary weapon systems.

Tactical Nuke missiles are the main anti ship weapon until the Asgard beams are fitted and the Railgun (32 apparently in the 304) is a dual use anti ship/anti fighter weapon, I'd assume the capital ship railguns are larger than the fighter/ground mount versions.

Edit: I forgot about the ancient drones (used as a fixed defence and in puddle jumpers), but I don't think they were ever back engineered either and the Atlantis crew were pretty much using an ancient stockpile rather than the SGC having any ability to produce drones or launchers……or indeed puddle jumpers.

The fact that initially at least the SGC ships are undergunned against their enemies isn't really surprising since its pretty much the standard for the bad guys in the Stargate universe….Goa'uld, Replicators, Wraith, Ori all out classed the Humans initially.

[Quote]The SGC never successfully back engineered weapons tech from Goa'uld, which is why apart from captured zap gun and the Tok'ra supplied one lets you see the invisible aliens, the SGC only uses human made weaponry

The SGC uses human weapons as they are far superior in ground combat.

Both wraith and goa'uld ground combat weapons are lacking in effectiveness compared to humans.

Which is why the humans only gdt capured or killed when massively out numbered.

A back engineered zap gun wouldn't be effective?

The zap gun is probably superior in any hostage type situation or when you mission is capture rather than kill, athough it can be used to kill and to dispose of any bodies….seems like a perfect special forces weapon.

The staff weapon is hamstrung by its archaic design mean't to intimidate and to be used as a melee weapon. But take that capabilty and engineer it into a human style rapid fire weapon and you have a easily superior weapon to anything in the SGC arsenal…..remember a shot from a staff weapon is usually a one shot kill (unless it hits someone important to the plot).

The Wraith weapons are really just a stun gun since the Wraith want live prey, again very effective….althrough a poor design to shot…..the Darts of course have a laser weapon, as do the ships….which makes it easier to see who is shooting at who.

Ship weapon wise the Goa'uld blasters (seems to be an enlarged version on the deathglider staff weapons and a much larger version on the ships) are markedly superior to the SGC.

The reason the SGC uses human weapons is because it allows easy identification for the viewers, the same way that in Star Wars the rebels shoot blue lasers and the Empire shots red.

Aside from SG1 and those supporting them, the SGC tended to get their asses kicked on a regular basis by the Goa'uld….being outnumbered isn't really an good excuse since the SGC was almost always outnumbered.

Lets also not forget Ronon's pistol in Atlantis which is shown to be superior to the SGC weaponry on many occasions.

I dont agree ronons weapon is superior, it packs a bigger punch and has stunn, but still only a semi auto.

No other race then humans can walk into a rom and kill every last motherer in it.

SGC can kill hundreds of jaffa with a dozen or so members with heavy weapons. There is no jaffa or wraith M60 or M249.

Hell even the P90 can take out half a dozen wraith or jaffa in a single spray.

Those times non SG1 teams get taken out by jaffa it's usually a trap or ambush.

in ground combat woman weapons are far superior to all they meet.

My main problem wasn't that they started with rails ans missiles. But they kept them for 4 seasons, when they very ealry on were shown not to be effective. Not once did a missile attack work.

"woman weapons are far superior to all they meet"

They certainly are! No man can stand before them! Lol :)

Nothing else can be said after that.