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hillbilly hetman Inactive Member25 Apr 2015 7:45 p.m. PST

Looking for information on troop types, uniforms etc….

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP25 Apr 2015 8:22 p.m. PST

"Crescent Among the eagles: The Ottoman Empire and the Napoleonic Wars." I bought my copy from George Nafziger.

korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP25 Apr 2015 10:28 p.m. PST

Not sure if this is what you are after but Wargames Vault have this as a .pdf for uniforms;

link

and this from Micro Mark as a sort of army composition;

link

(edit) and this for 18th century which may or may not hold true into the 19th;

link

Vintage Wargaming26 Apr 2015 8:58 a.m. PST

There's always the Osprey

hillbilly hetman Inactive Member26 Apr 2015 10:13 a.m. PST

I'm pretty new to Napoleonics but I'm contemplating a wildly hypothetical (=impossible) confrontation between the Spanish and the Ottomans in the Maghreb. I like offbeat armies.

mashrewba Inactive Member26 Apr 2015 11:44 a.m. PST

Or have the Ottomans attempting to reverse the Reconquista!!

dBerczerk26 Apr 2015 12:57 p.m. PST

Plenty of actual confrontation between the Ottomans and Imperial Russians during the late 18th and early 19th Centuries.

Check out this video of a game played in 54mm by a group in Belgium. Quite a spectacle!

YouTube link

Good luck with your project.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP26 Apr 2015 4:40 p.m. PST

@hillbilly: I thought you were asking for a list of sources; sorry I can't be of more help.

hillbilly hetman Inactive Member26 Apr 2015 8:03 p.m. PST

79th, thanks! I'm looking for pretty much everything. I ordered the book from Amazon, it looks like a solid choice.

Gattamalata Inactive Member27 Apr 2015 10:23 a.m. PST

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hillbilly hetman Inactive Member27 Apr 2015 10:58 a.m. PST

Gattamalata, great link! Thanks.

Durando07 May 2015 12:10 p.m. PST

Be wary of the info within the Osprey books……
Dont forget The Ottoman Persian Campaigns

Lilian19 Nov 2016 9:01 a.m. PST

what about Chris Flaherty's Ottoman Armies of the Napoleonic Wars announced on his website for this (now finishing) year 2016
it seems not yet published…

about Spaniards vs Turks and Reconquista, don't forget that Spain's north african neighbour, it was and still is Morocco, a State kingdom and even Empire independant from Ottoman Empire contrary to Algiers Tunisia Libya and Egypt, the history of Morocco is totally different

for that reason and a Reconquista "al revés" the British wanted to establish a military alliance with Morocco in the XVIIth century to conquer the Peninsula and share his territory (Ceuta Melilla Andalucia for the Moroccans…) not with the Turks not at all concerned in this moroccan-spanish area

yes there is the case of Oran in western Algeria, spanish until 1792 where you have fightings between Spaniards and Turkirsh
Spain had raised a fixed infantry regiment there the Fijo de Oran 1733-1793
link

11th ACR20 Nov 2016 11:54 a.m. PST

References for Napoleons Campaign in Egyptian and Holy Land:
Every source listed with * in the Reference is in my personal library.

Books on Napoleon's Campaign in Egyptian and Holy Land:
* Napoleons Egyptian Campaigns 1798-1801, MAA 79, Michael Barthorp, Osprey Pub. Ltd. 1978, ISBN 0-85045-126-4

* French Soldiers in Egypt 1798-1801, Warrior 77, Terry Crowdy, Osprey Pub. Ltd. 2003, Terry Crowdy, ISBN 1-84176-628-3

* Bonapart in Egypt, J. Christopher Herald, 1962

* Uniforms of the French Revolutionary Wars 1789-1802, Phillip J. Haythornthwaite, Blanford Press 1981 ISBN 0-4137-0936-7

* Napoleonic Uniforms Vol. 1, John R. Elting, Macmillan Pub. Co.1993, ISBN 0-02-897115-9

* The Ottoman Empire and the Napoleonic Wars 1792-1815, William E. Johnson, Nelson Enterprises 1988.

* The Crescent Among the Eagles, Johnson, William E., Nafziger Press, 1994. ISBN: 1585450065

* Armies of the Ottoman Empire 1775-1820, MAA 314, David Nicolle, Osprey Pub. Ltd. 1998, ISBN1-85532-697-3

* The Campaigns of Napoleon, David Chandler, MacMillian Pub. Co. 1966, ISBN 0-02-523660-1

* Memoirs of Napoleons Egyptian Expedition 1798-1801, Captain Joseph-Marie Moiret, Greenhill Press, ISBN 1-85367-449-4

* Napoleon In The Holy Land, by Nathan Schur, Greenhill Books March 17, 2006, ISBN-10: 1853673455, ISBN-13:1853673450

* Napoleon's Regiments: Battle Histories of the Regiments of the French Army, 1792-1815, Digby George Smith, Greenhill Books, (October 2000), ISBN-10:1853674133, ISBN-13:978-1853674136

* The Blue Nile, Alan Moorhead, Perennial 2000, ISBN 0-06-095640-2

* Guns in the Desert, General Jean-Pierre Doguereau"s, Praeger 2002, ISBN 0-313-32-32512-X

* The French Expedition to Egypt, M.J. Miot, Worly Pub. 1997, ISBN 1-869804-47-3

* Armies of the Napoleonic Era, Otto Von Pivka, Taplinger Pub. Co. INC, 1979, ISBN 0-8008-5471-3

* Napoleon's Mercenaries, Guy C. Dempsey, Greenhill Press 2002, ISBN 1-85367-488-5

* Le Armee Francaise, ETV Services 1998, On Military Matters onmilitarymatters.com

* Journal of the Late Campaign in Egypt by Thomas Walsh, 1803 (Republished by Gregg International Pub. Ltd Westmead 1972 ISBN 0576 171115

* The French Expedition into Syria 1799 by General Berthier, Worley Pub. 1990 by ISBN 1-869804-18-X

* Mirage: Napoleon's Scientists and the Unveiling of Egypt, Nina Burleigh, July 2006, Pub.: Morrow/Avon, William Morrow & Company, ISBN: 0-06-059767-4

* Napoleon in Egypt, Abd al-Rahman al- Jabarti, Markus Wiener Pub., ISBN 1-55876-338-4 (hard cover) ISBN 1-55876-337-6 (paperback)

* Napoleon's Egypt: Invading the Middle East, Juan Cole, Palgrave Macmillan, (August 7, 2007), ISBN-10: 1403964319, ISBN-13: 978-1403964311

* NAPOLEON'S CAMPAIGN IN EGYPT (Vol 1) French Armies, Grant, C. S. Partizan Press, 2006, ISBN: 978-1-8581818-524-8

* NAPOLEON'S CAMPAIGN IN EGYPT (Vol 2) BRITISH & ALLIES, Grant, C. S., Partizan Press, 2007, ISBN: 978-1-8581818-552-1

*The Battle of The Nile, Oliver Warner, Macmillan co.1960, ASIN: B0000CKTIR\

* Abercrombie and Moore in Egypt, First Empire Publishing 2004, ISBN: 0952630435

* Narrative of the British Expedition to Egypt: Carefully Abridged from the … by Sir Robert Thomas Wilson. 1803: link

* State of Egypt, After the Battle of Heliopolis, Reynier, G and J Robinson 1802, link
* Ottoman Wars: An Empire Besieged, Virginia Aksan, Longman Publishing June 2007, ISBN-10: 0582308070, ISBN-13: 978-0582308077
* A Short History of the Naval and Military Operations in Egypt, 1780 to 1802", Lt.Col. Sir John M. Burgoyne L'Expédition d 'Égypte 1798-1801, par Clément de la Jonquière 1899, ISBN-10: 1421245043, ISBN-13: 978-1421245041 link

* Memoir of a campaign with the Ottoman army in Egypt, from February to July 1800, John Philip Morier, Published by Printed for J. Debrett, 1801, Original from Oxford University, Digitized Nov 9, 2007 link
* The Discovery of Egypt: Vivant Denon's Travels with Napoleon's Army, Terence M. Russell, March 2006, Publisher: Sutton Pub., Limited, ISBN: 0-7509-4145-6

* The Importance of Malta Considered, in the Years 1796 and 1798, Mark Wood, Published by J. Stockdale, 1803, Oxford University, Digitized Oct 1, 2007, link

* Mirage: Napoleon's Scientists and the Unveiling of Egypt, Nina Burleigh, Harper (November 27, 2007), ISBN-10: 0060597674, ISBN-13: 978-0060597672,

* History French occupation, 1798-1801 Sources, Skakowski, A. M. (Adam Mieczysaw), 1877-1951; Zajaczek, Józef, 1752-1826, Cracovie : G. Gebethner,
link

* Guerre d'Orient: Campagnes de Égypte et de Syrie, 1798-1799. Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire de Napoléon, dictés par lui-mème à Sainte-Hélène, et publiés par le général Bertrand, Volume 1, Bertrand, Henri-Gratien, comte, 1773-1844, Comon 1847, link

* Guerre d'Orient: Campagnes de Égypte et de Syrie, 1798-1799. Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire de Napoléon, dictés par lui-mème à Sainte-Hélène, et publiés par le général Bertrand. Volume 2, Bertrand, Henri-Gratien, comte, 1773-1844, Comon 1847, link

* Final French struggles in India and on the Indian seas : including an account of the capture of the Isles of France and … ; with an appendix containing an account of the expedition from India to Egypt in 1801, Malleson, G. B. (George Bruce), 1825-1898, London : W.H. Allen.
link

* Histoire de l'expédition d'Egypte et de Syri, By Jean-Joseph A. Dupont et Cie, 1826 link

* Napoleon in Egypt, Paul Strathem, Bantam October 21, 2008, ISBN-10: 0553806785, ISBN-13: 978-0553806786, ISBN 0-86372-299-7, ISBN-10: 0863722997, ISBN-13: 978-0863722998

Relation des campagnes du Général Bonaparte en Egypte et en Syrie, Berthier, Louis-Alexandre, 1753-1815, Milan Impr. Rue Neuve, link
Poesie der Kreigskunst: Oder, Feldzug der Franzosen in Egypten in den Jahren …. 1824: link
Guerre d'Orient. Campagnes d'égypte et de Syrie, 1798-1799: Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire de Napoléon, dictés par lui-même à Sainte-Hélène, et publiés par le général Bertrand. Tome 1 by Napoléon Bonaparte ISBN-10: 1421239108, ISBN-13: 978-1421239101, ISBN-13: 978-0543948502
Mémoires sur L'expédition d'Egypte, par Jean-Gabriel de Niello Sargy, Officier de Correspondance, attaché a l'état-major general, P. Belfond (1984), ISBN-10: 2714416837, ISBN-13: 978-2714416834

Le Directoire et l'expédition d'Égypte: étude sur les tentatives du Directoire pour communiquer avec Bonaparte, le secourir et le ramener – Alfred Boulay de la Meurthe 1885, link

Biographie maritime: ou, Notices historiques sur la vie et les campagnes des marins célèbres français et étrangers, By Joseph François Gabriel Hennequin, Published by Regnault, 1837,
link

Web sites with info:
The Napoleon Series: napoleon-series.org

Histofig: link

Napoleon.org: napoleon.org

French Occupation Period: touregypt.net/hfrench.htm

Museum des ancient costumes Turks of Istanbul.: link

Description de l'Égypte, descegy.bibalex.org

Funcken, Les armes et uniformes de la période révolutionnaire jusqu'au Consulat (1788 – 1804)
link

The Sultan's Big Guns, by William Johnson. link

Ottoman Gun Sizes. link

PAINTING HIGHLANDERS TARTANS. link

Medicine in Egypt at the time of Napoleon Bonaparte. link


Flags and Standards:
Warflags: France, Great Briton. warflag.com

Napflags: France, Great Briton. link

Histofig: Ottoman. link

French Flags: Free Flags. drapeaux.org/Accueil.htm
Military Flags of the World 1618-1900, Terence Wise Blandford Press 1977, ISBN 0-7137-0824-7

Drapeaux of the French Army Line & Light Infantry, 1794-1804 tmg110.tripod.com/frarmy4.htm


Magazine Articles:
* Napoleon in Egypt, By Melanie Sue Byrd, Napoleon Magazine # 13.

* Napoleon in Syria, By John Dunn, Napoleon Magazine # 15.

* Napoleon & the French in Egypt, By Coley E. Cowan, Command Magazine Issue 52

* Battle of the Pyramids, by John Dellinger, Military History Magazine, April 1998.
* Napoleon Saves the Day at Mount Tabor, By James W. Shosenberg, Military History Magazine, April 1999.

* Final French Triumph in Egypt, By Eric Niderost, Military History Magazine, August 1999.

* Striking at Britain Indirectly through an Expedition to Egypt, Introductory Guide the Age of Napoleon.

* Ottoman Empire, by John Dunn, Introductory Guide the Age of Napoleon.

* The French Campaign in Egypt, 1798-1801, Part I, Stephen Ede-Borrett, Wargames Illustrated #34, July 1990.

* The French Campaign in Egypt, 1798-1801, Part II, Stephen Ede-Borrett, Wargames Illustrated #35 August 1990.

* The French Campaign in Egypt, 1798-1801, Part III, Stephen Ede-Borrett, Wargames Illustrated #36, September 1990.

*The British Army in Egypt, Stephen Ede-Borrett, Wargames Illustrated #42, March 1991.

* An Egyptian Episode, Arthur Harman, Miniature Wargames #68, January 1989.

* The Campaign on the Nile 1798-1799, Richard Gilby, Miniature Wargames #75, August, 1989.

* Death on the Nile, Part I, Gary Hughes, Wargames Illustrated #113, February 1997.

* Death on the Nile, Part II, Gary Hughes, Wargames Illustrated #115, April 1997.

* Death on the Nile, Part I, Gary Hughes, Wargames Illustrated #118, July 1997.

* Napoleon In Egypt, Dave Watson, Wargames Illustrated #249, July 2008.

* The Battle of Aboukir 1799, Mark Bevis, Miniature Wargames #144, March 1995.

* Middle East Disaster, The Battle of El Hamad, Egypt, April 21st 1807, Miniature Wargames #173, October 1997.

Murvihill22 Nov 2016 9:22 a.m. PST

I built an army of Ottomans for Column, Line and Square. First of all, most troops are not in uniforms, so you can paint them any way you wish. I decided to paint each unit with a different paint scheme but all the figures in the unit were the same so you could tell them apart. Anyway there was a higher proportion of cav to infantry than Continental armies and much of the cav had armor and lances but they didn't get a charge bonus. Also, the middle eastern armies were different from the metropolitan Ottoman armies. Specific types:
Infantry:
Sekhans-Line infantry but in CLS they only get one action per turn which cripples them in an attack. Fortunately the Turks defend a lot and Sekhans aren't the only type of infantry available. They were basically signed up for the campaign.
Nizam el Jedid-European trained line troops. They get two actions per turn and wear uniforms, although the blue uniforms in my army have faded a bit (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it)
Janissaries-Traditional Turkish professional troops. In CLS they are treated as light infantry but cannot skirmish, but they fire as skirmishers when formed.
Raya, Albanian Mercenaries-militia light infantry who can skirmish.
Beduins, Fellahin, Greek Derbents-militia line infantry. The Greeks get two actions. Fellahin were poorly equipped.
Cavalry:
Silitar-The elite cavalry of the army. These are treated as cuirassiers but have lances too.
Suvalieri-Heavy cavalry but with lances.
Sipahis-light cavalry with lances
Djellis-light cavalry, but considered better fighters. Their nickname was "Capou coulis" or ‘crazy heads'
Yoruks-militia light cavalry (with lances)
Camelry-dragoons with (guess what) lances.
Mamelukes-basically CLS treats them as hussars but with a chain shirt under their clothes.
Artillery
Heavy foot artillery-these guns shoot as foot guns but move slower and cannot move and unlimber the same turn.
Bombard- a short-range gun with a huge ball, basically immobile.
(plus standard European trained foot artillery)
I have an entire battalion of sappers too, the Turks liked to dig in.

Prince of Essling Supporting Member of TMP22 Nov 2016 12:15 p.m. PST

Ottoman Empire uniforms:

Dessins originaux de costumes turcs : un recueil de dessins aquarelles (uniforms & clothing during reign of Selim III).
link

Costumes de l'empire Turc, avec des notes explicatives. Vues de Constantinople, des Dardanelles et de Smyrne, prises en 1817, 1818, 1819, 1820 (this cover reign of Mahmud II)link

L'organisation de l'armée ottomane (depuis sa création jusqu'à nos jours). Première partie depuis 1326 jusqu'à 1826, avec 247 gravures coloriées Istanbul Maktab Harbiyah Matbaasý, 1907 link

"Military Costume of Turkey" is downloadable as a pdf from google books. The illustrations are from life and it has full supporting text. It was produced in 1818 and depicts uniforms circa 1812. link

Scharnachthal Inactive Member22 Nov 2016 12:23 p.m. PST

Two uniform plates by Wilhelm von Kobell:

link

link

Lilian18 Dec 2016 5:20 p.m. PST

what about Chris Flaherty's Ottoman Armies of the Napoleonic Wars announced on his website for this (now finishing) year 2016
it seems not yet published…

one month later…this planned title has disappeared from his website…huh? napoleon

Lilian08 Feb 2018 7:47 p.m. PST

two forthcoming books

first, it seems that this last title above will be published finally by Partizan Press this spring 2018

second, at Helion & Company about the Egyptian campaign after the French Army of Orient in 2017, the British Army in 2018, it will be a third about the Ottoman Army in 2019

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