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Defender108 Apr 2015 9:07 a.m. PST

Anyone have any knowledge or even a rough idea of when "technicals", i.e. weapons mounted in the beds of pickup trucks, started to be used regularly in African conflicts?

Petrov08 Apr 2015 9:08 a.m. PST

When ww2 started.

Random Die Roll Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2015 9:40 a.m. PST

The British mounted several weapons in the "Tilly"

Looks like the British Tilly and the American Willy are based off the same type of platform---but the British were first to production in 1939---if my memory is correct

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2015 10:32 a.m. PST

I don't recall any being mentioned during Mau Mau. My unit never used anything like them and we were not warned about them from the rebels. We were of course late in that action it was all but over when I was out there.

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Von Trinkenessen08 Apr 2015 10:51 a.m. PST

I think World War 1, Model T ford tenders?
Also North africa between the wars.

Rich Bliss08 Apr 2015 10:51 a.m. PST

I remember seeing them in news reports in the late 70's, early 80's in Chad.

JasonAfrika08 Apr 2015 10:57 a.m. PST

As far as modern vehicles- The Congo Crisis 1960-65 saw foreign mercenaries using a variety of light vehicles and pick ups with dual .30 calibers, single .50 calibers, & recoilless rifles on improvised mountings. The Toyota Wars in Chad in the 1980s is probably the best example. Toyotas and varioous other light trucks like the French ACMAT sported Milan ATGMs, 106mm RR, and a variety of heavy machine guns…and they tore apart Libyan Armor in nighttime hit and run attacks. South Africa used a variety of aircraft weapons like 20mm cannons on mine resistant vehicles like the Buffel and Casspir in Namibia and Angola. And the list goes on and on…..

gunnerphil08 Apr 2015 12:08 p.m. PST

The term technical was used in Chad. During the invasion by Lybia in 1987,sometimes called the Toyota War

Rod I Robertson08 Apr 2015 12:26 p.m. PST

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martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Apr 2015 12:31 p.m. PST

I believe the term "technical" started because a name was need for these guns trucks when hired by NGOs and similar. The invoice was for "technical" hire/assistance, hence the name technical.


martin

Rich Bliss08 Apr 2015 12:39 p.m. PST

Martin is correct. Reporters had to put something on the expense report and "Technical Advisor" seemed to be acceptable to the auditors back home.

Defender108 Apr 2015 1:05 p.m. PST

As usual you gentleman are regular walking encyclopedias of military knowledge. Thank you very much.

DeltaBravo08 Apr 2015 3:04 p.m. PST

To add to JasonAfrika's list, the Rhodesians were pretty handy at converting things into gun mounted trucks, 'APCs' and the like.

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2015 4:19 p.m. PST

Do chariots count?

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2015 5:58 p.m. PST

I think the term "technical" implies at least to me, a civilian vehicle pressed into combat service, not a repurposed military vehicle.

mandt208 Apr 2015 8:59 p.m. PST

The war between Libya and Chad was also known as the Toyota war.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War

That's the first time I heard about a systemic use of civilian vehicles, specifically small pick-up trucks, pressed into a combat role.

Lion in the Stars09 Apr 2015 10:13 a.m. PST

Given the off-road capabilities and load-carrying capacity of the Toyota trucks of the time, they were BETTER than the Jeeps and most military trucks of the day!

Martin Rapier11 Apr 2015 8:19 a.m. PST

As above, in modern usage, the Toyota War between Chad and Libya.

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