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Tango0123 Mar 2015 11:43 a.m. PST

This is a quite different diorama from ACW.
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From here
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Armand

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2015 12:07 p.m. PST

Was this inspired by an actual event? Why would the grass dissappear in the interior side of their barricades? I don't see earthworks.

Dan Beattie23 Mar 2015 12:47 p.m. PST

Possibly not a good idea to use limbers with ammo inside them as cover.

John the Greater23 Mar 2015 1:02 p.m. PST

I wonder what it is. Everything argues against it being from the American Civil War and even the folks posting to the website seem unsure. They speculate something from 1st Bull Run, but I'm not buying it.

The defenders are wearing red and the attackers are wearing blue with white trousers, which could be Brazilians attacking Paraguayans (note that the closest cavalryman has a lance, very Brazilian)

Tango0123 Mar 2015 1:09 p.m. PST

A had to admit that the dio confuse me too.
John, probably you are right.

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William Warner23 Mar 2015 3:01 p.m. PST

I think it's most likely the Battle of Coleto Creek during the Texas War of Independence. Fannin's command, retreating to Victoria from Goliad, was surrounded in the open prairie and forced to form a square with it's guns and wagons. The red-shirted figures probably represent the Alabama Red Rover company.

zoneofcontrol23 Mar 2015 7:38 p.m. PST

The comment above about using the limbers for cover reminded me of something. I am a more modern gamer but have interest in the ACW. I recall a story from a battle (Pea Ridge?) where the retreating force threw a smoldering blanket over top of a limber as they left. As the victors pressed on through the position the wagon exploded throwing the pursuit into disarray. Not sure how much of that is "story" and how much is history.

All that being said, the wagons and equipment do appear to be older vintage than ACW to my poor old and tired eyes.

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2015 8:13 p.m. PST

Some of those minis are definitely Imex Alamo defenders in the circle.

William Warner23 Mar 2015 9:11 p.m. PST

I checked the google pictures for Coleto Creek and the diorama is indeed of that battle. The Diorama is on display in the Presidio La Bahia in Goliad, TX.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP24 Mar 2015 7:04 a.m. PST

Good work, WW.

HistoryPhD24 Mar 2015 10:14 a.m. PST

No matter what war it's part of, I don't think I'd care to take cover behind a limber full of ammunition.

Tango0124 Mar 2015 3:01 p.m. PST

Agree!
Ditto, good work WW.!

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John the Greater25 Mar 2015 8:39 a.m. PST

Thank you Dr. Warner for clearing this up.

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