"Skull and Crown: Renaissance Galley flag sets- proofs" Topic

Hot off the presses and into my hands -the first sets of proofs of the flag sheets for the upcoming release of my 1/300th scale Renaissance galley range. These have been given the thumbs up and they've gone into production.

Each ship model will come with a random flag sheet based upon its nationality. The flag set is an easy way to quickly dress up a model, and gives you scads of options, all the while keeping a cohesiveness to your fleet that will be sure to win over the ladies!

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Very nice!

The flags look like they would work well with 15mm and 28mm wargame figures as well as the intended 1/300 scale ship models.

Very shiny!

Great work!

I'm doing 1-1200 scale in-shore Russians and Swedes. Lots of Galley's. Why! Oh! Why do you not do Swedes and Russians as well and in a smaller scale. The above person's like them. I DO NOT! Well they are nice. More than nice, Great, Shiny and very nice are some words used. O.K. I will say Masterful (Just to big)
Be safe, An unhappy
Rory

Devdoc-

Not doing Russians and Swedes (yet) because honestly this is the first time I've heard of them having galleys. I thought it was just all Redoubts and what not. Please to educate me further.

Cheers
Ths

Will these flag sheets be available for purchase separately?

I'm thinking they might work for my Ottoman army.

Hi Ths,
If you look-up Naval wars in the Baltic you will find lots of stuff. Langton's web-page shows lots of different ships and galley's used in the Baltic wars. Like the Med, lots of shallow waters and islands. Battle of Hango (Gangut) 1714, Grengamn 1720 to name 2 of the many battles. Galleys were used up till and past 1809.
Be safe
Rory

honestly this is the first time I've heard of them having galleys. I thought it was just all Redoubts and what not. Please to educate me further.

Dude! Seriously? I am stunned.

You of all people need to go read up on Fredrik Henrik af Chapman, one of the coolest naval architects of the entire Age of Sail and inventor of the hemmema, pojama, turuma and udema. Chapman was a genius who left behind lots of cool drawings, and you can still buy his book Architectura Navalis Mercatoria on Amazon. If he had been alive in the Victorian era, maybe some of those weird Steampunk machines invented for gaming would be real instead of fiction…

The Swedes and Russians fought multiple wars starting with the Great Northern War, and the Baltic was so full of shallow areas riddled with islands they each had two totally separate naval services – a blue-water navy full of typical broadside-armed sailing ships, and a coastal fleet of galleys and other small craft for service along the coast. They fought a large number of sea battles it's very difficult to research in English in The Great Northern War, The Russo-Swedish War of 1788-1790, plus a few battles of the Hats' War (1741-1743) and the Finnish War of 1808-1809. As Rory mentioned, Langton has miniatures for this genre in 1:1200 scale, and has a few nice photos of the models he produces.

- Ix

Don't laugh, but with the help of Vol I learnt something new.
It started with me getting my nickers in a twist with brass sails. I for one hate brass sails, but Vol loves them. I have made 2 square rig Hemmemaa's and was putting together a 3rd but with Lateen rig. One of Langton's. He had split the larger main and fore lateen sails top to bottom at the mast. I work hard to try and match the to parts and could not. I ranted at Vol about this. (We are friends so can rant) we saw the split sails on Langton's web-site, two nice photo's of the model.
Vol found some drawings of Hemmemaa's under sail. The drawings showed the split sails. So Langton was right, Vol is bloody good at looking up things. So it seems that very large lateen sails were split for handling and control of the ship. So tonight I know more, Langton was right and Vol is a clever and a good friend.
Be safe
Rory

Getting back to the original posting:

Will these flag sheets be available for purchase separately?

I second that thought, with a modification: the naval gaming world needs something like this for 1/1200 scale, and maybe for 1/600 scale.

I now have Renaissance galleys from Navwar (1/1200), Langton (1/1200) and Skytrex (overscale 1/600) that I'd like to dress up, and I'd be willing to pay for flag/banner/arming sets like these to save me the time of inventing them myself. The Navwar galleys in particular could benefit immensely from this treatment – they need the help.

- Ix

Yellow Admiral and devsdoc, thanks for the schooling. :) So many cool things to learn about our hobby!

Flags will be available for purchase when I get everything up onto to my webstore. Currently waiting on my editor for rules layout and for printing, so about a month behind schedule.
As to scaling, That will have to wait a while, but a great idea.
Cheers
Thomas

Hi Thomas,
Sorry for coming off-thread about my sail news.
I did not like the way Yellow Admiral tore into you about not knowing about the Baltic wars. I too learnt something new. With the help of friends about lateen sails. The day I know it all is the day I stop doing this. If I come across as a know-all tell me. I wish to show I do not know everything.
Be safe
Rory

LOL! I wasn't tearing into Thomas, I really am stunned. Thomas and I live in the same region and have been gaming in the same circles (and occasionally the same games) for decades, so I'm not being over-familiar, we really are well acquainted. Esoteric history topics full of unusual inventions are the kind of topic I expect him to be schooling me about, not the other way around.

Let me sidetrack for a moment to explain that Thomas is a natural artiste with some serious artistic skillz (enough to make money from them) and a very eclectic self-education in aesthetically unified and powerful topics. You should see what kinds of stuff he doodles in his sketch books…

He recently got interested in the Anglo-Dutch Wars and the Lepanto period, and you have no idea how happy it makes me to have ANOTHER HUMAN BEING I can talk to about the aesthetic aspects of those periods – steep rake, tall sterns, use of colors and shapes and styles, all of it. Most gamers only care about the guns and tactics and numbers, but for me those periods have always had powerful and unifying artistic elements too, and it's nice to find a kindred soul. His laser-cut ships are really neat and properly evocative of the era. I bought a bunch of his galleys even though I already have a fortune invested in other scales…

I am pretty sure Chapman is exactly the kind of topic he'd love. Now that I've introduced him to the subject, maybe we'll see some really cool Chapman-inspired art-gaming projects.

- Ix

Erm- Blush! Those are very kind words Ix- and I appreciate you others here on the TMP that backed me up.

I'll back up IX here- we are in the same game club, and it wouldn't be " that kind" of game club without some chiding!
Ix has been an inspiration on research into things ship like, so he can poke all he wants.

Thanks again to all for the kind words and feedback.
Stay tuned for more later this weekend.
Cheers
Thomas
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Beautiful. When will they be released? Also any possibility in production in other scales? 1/100, 15mm, for me.

Wisercj-
Release will be late May, I think. As to scale, these are "League of Augsburg" scale flags,so would already work well with 15mm.
Cheers
Ths

Lovely flags! Those ships are going to look lovely.

Did these flags ever become available?

He may be willing to sell them separately if you email him. Otherwise, they are only available with the ships.

Sadly, not possible to buy pdfs.