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Slappy05 Mar 2015 9:06 p.m. PST

Chasing an interesting unit that could be used in many of the aspects of this war – and perhaps AWI – Could the masters of military history here help me!! please

John the OFM05 Mar 2015 9:44 p.m. PST

If you want to use this unit in the AWI, the British regulars' uniforms were different. French regulars even more so.

You can get away with American militia, though the purists will have plenty to say about the length of the waistcoat.

If you get Rogers Rangers with bonnet or slouch hat, they can also be Butler's Rangers in the AWI.

But, Woodlands Indians are your best bet for utility in both wars.

historygamer06 Mar 2015 6:10 a.m. PST

Agreed on Indians. Respectfully disagree about Rogers/Butlers idea. Other than Indians, the uniforms/clothing looked very different. What scale of figures are you talking about?

To answer the first part of your question – interesting unit used in many aspects (theaters?) of the war – your best bet, by far, is the 60th, Royal American Regiment. The only four battalion foot regiment, they saw service from North Carolina to the Plains of Abraham. Also were the first garrison regiment of the captured French Forts and saw a lot of action during Pontiac's Rebellion too.

Your next best bet would be a Highlander. Highland regiments saw service all over the place as well, though their facing colors were different (42nd were buff, the later blue – 77th wore green, 78th – Fraser's – wore white I believe).

For French, you best bet would be the Colonial French Marines since they garrisoned forts all over the place.

Those would be my recommendations.

Winston Smith06 Mar 2015 6:26 a.m. PST

Did Rogers' and Butlers' actually wear uniforms? I doubt it very much. What we think of as "uniforms " were derived from post war paintings.
Who wants to have their portrait painted in what they actually wore? grin
My guess is that they wore ordinary frontiersman's trashy garb.

marco56 Supporting Member of TMP06 Mar 2015 7:25 a.m. PST

There are period paintings that show Rangers in their uniforms which became official in early 1758.
Mark

historygamer06 Mar 2015 9:50 a.m. PST

Rogers was an official British Army unit, and they are fairly well documented.

Butlers too was issued uniforms, though I believe there is some question on their facing colors – red or white.

Ordinary frontier garb? Why would they wear that when most were not frontiersmen, in the sense we understand the word. They were soldiers, not militia.

historygamer06 Mar 2015 9:52 a.m. PST

Rogers Rangers:

link

historygamer06 Mar 2015 9:53 a.m. PST

Butlers info:

butlersrangers.ca

marco56 Supporting Member of TMP07 Mar 2015 6:06 a.m. PST

I don't think people realize how much uniforms changed in the period between the FIW and AWI.
Mark

spontoon07 Mar 2015 9:30 a.m. PST

Right with you Marco56! There's probably less change in uniforms in the past twenty years than in those twenty years!

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