Tango01 | 28 Feb 2015 10:22 p.m. PST |
"The current U.S. administration has wrapped up U.S. involvement in a mistaken war in Iraq (albeit on a schedule set by the previous administration, and with subsequent reintroduction of some U.S. military personnel into Iraq), has wound down U.S. involvement in a war in Afghanistan that had metamorphosed from a counterterrorist operation into a nation-building attempt (albeit only after an Obama-era "surge" and now with apparent second thoughts about how much longer the 13-year-old U.S. military involvement will continue), and has resisted pressure to throw U.S. troops into the civil war in Syria (albeit while employing other forms of U.S. military involvement, including airstrikes). The general direction of the administration's policies (though not some of the exceptions and detours) has been sound in terms of both the proper criteria for expending American blood and treasure and the effectiveness, or limitations thereof, of applying U.S. military force in internal conflicts such as the ones in those lands. Some observers would say that this overall direction also has been good politics given the lack of enthusiasm of the American public, still feeling some effects of an Iraq War syndrome, for getting involved any time soon in anything that could be described as—in the legally fuzzy but politically relevant term in the administration's draft authorization for use of military force against ISIS—"enduring offensive ground combat operations." Full article here link Amicalement Armand |
Lion in the Stars | 28 Feb 2015 10:59 p.m. PST |
Between 1945 and 1991, how many different combat operations was the US involved in? Let's see here… Berlin Airlift, Korea (1950-present), Vietnam (1960-1972), Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm, Kosovo/former Yugoslavia, Somalia… I'm reasonably sure that if we counted the time the US wasn't in a declared or otherwise conflict with someone, the last 20 years have seen fewer total such conflicts! |
Mako11 | 28 Feb 2015 11:07 p.m. PST |
Wow, talk about a loaded premise….. |
Sobieski | 28 Feb 2015 11:11 p.m. PST |
The Berlin Airlift was combat? I need a new dictionary, I see. |
nickinsomerset | 01 Mar 2015 12:43 a.m. PST |
Can't realy count Kosovo, former Yugoslavia as "combat operations" Tally Ho! |
GarrisonMiniatures | 01 Mar 2015 3:15 a.m. PST |
Berlin Airlift may not have involved fighting, but I think I could count it as combat in the sense that it was breaking a siege. |
doc mcb | 01 Mar 2015 7:51 a.m. PST |
Yes. Weakness leads to war. |
The G Dog | 01 Mar 2015 11:33 a.m. PST |
If I'm feeling pessimistic, it seems we are always heading into another war. |
cosmicbank | 01 Mar 2015 12:30 p.m. PST |
Its OK G. Dog we are always coming out of one too :) |
Lion in the Stars | 01 Mar 2015 12:50 p.m. PST |
Can't realy count Kosovo, former Yugoslavia as "combat operations" How many times did US/NATO troops get shot at there? Lost an F117 and an F16 to SAMs there, just off the top of my head, plus 85/88mm fire on the Abrams. Shots fired = combat. |
nickinsomerset | 01 Mar 2015 3:07 p.m. PST |
Most of the shooting took place during the UNPROFOR days, driving through Sarajevo in 94 was quite different to 96 when the biggest threat was being done for speeding!! Tally Ho! |
Legion 4 | 01 Mar 2015 4:10 p.m. PST |
Short Answer – NO … But the US [and others] will continue to support the anti-Deash forces. Plus NATO forces that border "Putin's" Russia … And don't forget the ROKS … |