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serge joe28 Feb 2015 12:16 p.m. PST

HI. gentsWas there any reassignment between them? greetings serge joe

serge joe28 Feb 2015 12:17 p.m. PST

How did they get promoted? Promotion serge joe

MajorB28 Feb 2015 12:29 p.m. PST

ADCs were often "gentlemen volunteers" – in other words unpaid, with no official rank. They were sent out by their fathers to serve on the staff of a particular general, in a form of patronage.

So reassignment unlikely.
No promotion. Could possibly be gazetted for valour on the field and/or awarded a commission (which was the aim of the exercise anyway).

Why don't you read a few books instead of asking questions like this all the time?

serge joe28 Feb 2015 1:18 p.m. PST

Dear MajorB,
The main reason i joint this forum i do not know right books to get this info greetings and al the best serge joe

JimDuncanUK28 Feb 2015 1:19 p.m. PST

@MajorB

Can you suggest any specific books that the original OP can potentially read in order to answer his question more fully?

serge joe28 Feb 2015 1:23 p.m. PST

Sorry, What is O P? serge joe

Greystreak28 Feb 2015 1:25 p.m. PST

O.P. = Original Poster. (You, in this case, Serge Joe).

serge joe28 Feb 2015 1:34 p.m. PST

If i knew the answers to my questions iwould not asked them right?
If I knew every thing i would join greetings serge joe

xxxxxxx28 Feb 2015 1:38 p.m. PST

French aides-de-camp tended to be relatives or friends of the general officer, or from socially prominent families "allied" with that of the general officer. These were lieutenants and higher, the number and ranks specified per regulations that seemed to have been largely followed. Sous-lieutenants occassionally were allowed by exception as "à la suite" to the regulated billets, pending promotion at the first opportunity. The aides tended to stay with their generals for many years, and were promoted whenever possible. This led to rather a good number of cases where aides-de-camp had there first substantive regimental experience when posted as commandants or colonels.

Russians gave a "chief's adjudant" to the officer commanding a regiment, with the rank of lieutenant or lower. This was a regimental billet, but the adjudant accompanied the regimental shef even if he was detached (as for example a brigade or division commander). Senior adjudants (staff-captains and above) were accorded to brigade and higher level commanders with various numbers and ranks dependant on the position of the commander. These were seconded from regiments under their command and the positions lasted typically 1 campaign – then the officer went back to his regiment and often his prior billet. For example, you could see that staff-captain Ivanov of the 1st grenadier company was not present with his battalion for some months while acting as an adjudant to his divisional commander, during which time lieutenant Kuzmin would be acting in his place in the 1st grenadier company (and a sub-lieutenant would be acting as lieutenant). Appointment of relatives was not too common, as the realtive had to in one of the units commanded by the general officer.
Army and Separate Corps commanders were allowed some leeway in having additional officers (typically colonels and above) à la suite to their headquarters, and these were sometimes personal friends, or more often just really good guys that were good to have around to take command of detachments, to replace general officer losses, etc.

The French and Russian emperors and the French major-général prince Berthier had more, and more senior aides – with duties usually somewhat beyond being a simple aide-de-camp – but that is moving off-topic.

– Sasha

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2015 1:45 p.m. PST

There you go sergey joe, knock yourself out:

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MajorB28 Feb 2015 1:45 p.m. PST

Can you suggest any specific books that the original OP can potentially read in order to answer his question more fully?

Chandler, "Campaigns of Napoleon"
Rothenberg, "The Art of Warfare in the Age of Napoleon"

The Napoleon Series: napoleon-series.org

- that'll do for starters. I'm sure others can add to the list.

JimDuncanUK28 Feb 2015 2:18 p.m. PST

@MajorB

Good starting list.

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