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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian01 Feb 2015 8:48 p.m. PST

Top five Spanish Civil War movies?

sneakgun01 Feb 2015 9:02 p.m. PST

Behold a Pale Horse (1964)
The Night Has Eyes (1942)
The Fallen Sparrow (1943)
For Whom the Bell Tolls (1943)
Land and Freedom (1995)
The Disappearance of Garcia Lorca (1996)
The Devil's Backbone (2001)
Vacas (1991)
Broken Silence (2001)
If They Tell You I Fell (1989)
The Girl of Your Dreams (1999)
Head in the Clouds (2004)

I've only seen For Whom the Bell Tolls.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian01 Feb 2015 9:32 p.m. PST

I have also heard of…

The Tree of Guernica (1975)

willthepiper01 Feb 2015 10:02 p.m. PST

Pan's Labrynth was set during the SCW, not sure if it counts though.

Pictors Studio01 Feb 2015 10:13 p.m. PST

I liked Pan's Labyrinth, I think it counts.

Also I'd add the one with Dragon's in the title but I don't remember the name. It was pretty good.

basileus6602 Feb 2015 12:05 a.m. PST

It's odd. I realize I've not watched any movie set in the SCW. I have a vague memory of watching a movie on TV when I was a child, perhaps 6 or 7 years old, which was based upon a screenplay attributed to Franco himself, "Raza" (two brothers, one Francoist and the other Republican, which fight for the love of the same woman; of course, the Francoist is noble and brave and the Republican is an egotistical bastard… yes, that original!). I can't remember if I have watched any other movie and even that one I just recall some of the photograms that illustrate any book upon the history of movie culture in the Francoist period.

Cerdic02 Feb 2015 12:23 a.m. PST

I don't think I've ever seen any films about the SCW. The only one I've even heard of on that list is "For Whom The Bell Tolls"!

Do songs count? 'Cos there is this one…..

YouTube link

Captain dEwell02 Feb 2015 3:13 a.m. PST

Another vote each for Land and Freedom and For Whom the Bell Tolls.

From a wargaming perspective, those two will probably give you enough ideas to game but if you have viewed the others then please tell me otherwise.

Fascinating period to read about.

Redlancer3802 Feb 2015 3:45 a.m. PST

Ken Loach's Land and Freedom is my favourite but the (Spanish?) film Libertarias was pretty good too.
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hocklermp502 Feb 2015 3:59 a.m. PST

"Behold A Pale Horse" is first rate. Gregory Peck is a Basque living in France since the SCW ended. But it did not end for him as he continues to raid into Spain. Anthony Quinn is a Guardia Civil officer intent on ending Peck's private war. He baits a trap and thereby hangs a tale.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2015 5:23 a.m. PST

I believe that The Snows of Kilamanjaro has some SCW footage.
There Be Dragons – Very good SCW film about religion and loyalty.
There is a good film about female militia, I believe the title is Libertas

FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP02 Feb 2015 5:32 a.m. PST

I've only seen these two. Time to start hunting down the others.
For Whom the Bell Tolls (1943)
Land and Freedom (1995)

Bob the Temple Builder02 Feb 2015 6:24 a.m. PST

Dragon Rapide tells the story of the Rising and is well worth seeing if you can get a copy.

jedburgh02 Feb 2015 7:28 a.m. PST

The Man from Morocco is a very good spy film starring Anton Walbrook(the German in Col Blimp)it starts off in Spain with a group of International Brigaders including Walbrook.

boy wundyr x02 Feb 2015 8:08 a.m. PST

Land and Freedom is good, but I don't know if I need to see it again, quite the downer. Which I guess sums up the SCW from a non-wargaming perspective.

Old Slow Trot02 Feb 2015 8:09 a.m. PST

And at least a few documentaires,one about the Abraham Lincoln Battallion.

Texas Jack02 Feb 2015 10:27 a.m. PST

Belle Epoque is a great Spanish film that is set during the war. Though the war is in the background, it definitely plays an important role in the film. The film also has the added advantage of featuring an 18 year old Penelope Cruz. thumbs up

Travellera02 Feb 2015 11:04 a.m. PST

I vote for Libertarias!

dualer02 Feb 2015 11:17 a.m. PST

Ay Carmela was quite enjoyable too.

Rrobbyrobot02 Feb 2015 12:13 p.m. PST

I have a copy of a film named Surprise Attack. It's Spanish made and it's a bit cheesy but I enjoy it…

Jemima Fawr03 Feb 2015 5:54 a.m. PST

Land & Freedom is a truly superb film. Managed to pick up the DVD when it was given a way free with a British newspaper some years back. :)

KTravlos03 Feb 2015 8:54 a.m. PST

There is also this, though I have not see nit

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Toronto4804 Feb 2015 10:32 a.m. PST

Land and Freedom

J Womack 9406 Feb 2015 7:10 a.m. PST

There Be Dragons

Mike O09 Mar 2015 1:30 p.m. PST

Libertarias
Land and Freedom
For Whom The Bell Tolls
The Disappearance of Garcia Lorca
The Anarchist's Wife


Honourable mention for films set just after:
Spirit of the Beehive
Pan's Labyrinth
The Devil's Backbone

Bertie12 Mar 2015 9:55 a.m. PST

"Land and Freedom" and "For Whom The Bell Tolls" certainly.

Henry Fonda and Madeleline Caroll in "Blockade" is polemical, but the polemics are on the right side and it was Oscar nominated for best writing in 1939. Fonda's acting is a bit wooden, and it comes across a bit like "The Grapes of Wrath" in a black beret, but it is nowhere near as good as "The Grapes…" Because of the movie, the director, William Dieterle, who had won the best picture Oscar for his previous film, "The Life of Emile Zola," was "gray-listed" during McCarthyism and his offers of work mostly dried up.

On the documentary front:

Ernest Hemingway's "The Spanish Earth" is contemporary magic:
YouTube link

Julia Newman's "Into the Fire. American Women in the Spanish Civil War," and Buckner, Dore and Sill's "The Good Fight. The Abraham Lincoln Brigade in the Spanish Civil War" which is narrated by Studs Terkel are both very good.

Philip Kaufman's HBO flick, "Hemingway and Gellhorn" includes a lot on the SCW. The movie got mixed reviews but I loved it, and forgave Martha for turning up in Madrid in a Soviet tank… Well a T 26 would have been fine, but somehow central casting kitted her out with a T34/85.

Cheers,
Bertie

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