"Montebello 1859 scenario" Topic
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| ChrisBBB | 21 Jan 2015 10:16 a.m. PST |
How did the Austrians lose at Montebello? They had two or three times as many men as the French, but they failed to get half of them into action. What wargamer would make the same mistake? ;-) Here is my attempt at creating a Montebello game that is both realistic and balanced, as a small practice/training scenario for BBB. Health warning: I have not playtested it myself yet. As always, comments welcome!
Montebello draft scenario map by bbbchrisp, on Flickr
Montebello draft scenario p1 by bbbchrisp, on Flickr
Montebello draft scenario p2 by bbbchrisp, on Flickr Chris Bloody Big BATTLES!
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| Martin Rapier | 21 Jan 2015 11:17 a.m. PST |
The Austrians usually lose when we play it too. I based the scenario on the V&B one iirc (or possibly the Fire & Fury Francesa one, I can't recall at this distance in time) |
| ChrisBBB | 22 Jan 2015 5:29 a.m. PST |
I guess one factor I've omitted in my first draft is that some of the Austrians may still have had muskets rather than Lorenz rifles. Any of you knowledgeable folks out there have any idea how many and in which units? Chris |
| KTravlos | 22 Jan 2015 8:40 a.m. PST |
I will mobilise my Russians and tell you what comes out! |
| ChrisBBB | 22 Jan 2015 10:13 a.m. PST |
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| NickinRI | 22 Jan 2015 5:42 p.m. PST |
According to the Spectator, the French captured 12,000 Austrian muskets. If that helps. link This is also an entertaining read. So much stuff is now available, it's far too distracting. link |
| ChrisBBB | 23 Jan 2015 3:50 a.m. PST |
Thanks, Nick, but I would guess that 12,000 figure embraces both smoothbore and rifled muskets. And it is for Magenta, not just Montebello. Chris |
| Martin Rapier | 23 Jan 2015 7:23 a.m. PST |
I gave Paumgartens division smoothbores while Hesse and Urban got rifles. The scenarios original author (Martin Soilleuax-Cardwell) stated the ratio of rifles to muskets in the Austrian Army at this time was 60:40. |
| ChrisBBB | 23 Jan 2015 9:43 a.m. PST |
Hmm, dunno: "Apart from a certain proportion of Grenzer and other second-line troops armed either with the «Konsol» smoothbore percussion musket, or the Delvigne-type «Kammerbüchse » M1842 et M1848, the bulk of the Austrian infantry were armed with the model 1854 Lorenz rifle".
link Which might or might not mean 60:40. And wasn't Urban's a Reserve Division? Not that it matters a huge amount. But I'd like to find a definitive source, rather than just looting from others' scenarios. Chris |
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