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Rrobbyrobot18 Jan 2015 11:07 a.m. PST

I would like to know how many MP44s were issued per squad near the end of the war. Any help would be appreciated.

Oddball18 Jan 2015 11:14 a.m. PST

As many as they could get is my first thought, but….

Would depend on the troops, ie: Panzer Gren, Volks Gren, Infantry, Waffen SS.

My understanding was that there were 2 issued to each squad in the Gren (panzer and volks) and Waffen SS units. Less so to regular infantry if any.

Personal logo Whirlwind Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2015 11:16 a.m. PST

IIRC, I thought when this was discussed before TMP link the opinion was that it would tend to be by platoon?

Mako1118 Jan 2015 12:34 p.m. PST

I am under the impression that the Volkssturm, during the Battle of the Bulge, were completely outfitted with them, to bolster their perceived physical weakness.

Weasel18 Jan 2015 1:06 p.m. PST

The /intention/ was to form "assault" platoons outfitted with them, with one of the squads carrying the MG42.

Both fitting the offensive nature that the German army wished to have and the fact that for an inexperienced commander, commanding 3 blocks of troops was easier than potentially 6 individual teams.

In reality, many never received their equipment and others were outfitted with MP40 instead.

In general, the MP44/StG is one of those "more common than some gamers think, less common than others think" outfits.

Martin Rapier19 Jan 2015 4:19 a.m. PST

As above, the intention was to group them into platoons, not dole them out individually.

The commentary here is useful:

link

christot19 Jan 2015 5:36 a.m. PST

indeed, more common than one would think, Danny Parker in one of his several Bulge books states that because of the immediate issue of the new weapon for the offensive, it was the single most common sidearm in that battle.
He doesn't provide a source for this, but he usually knows his onions.
I suspect that it isn't actually true if you include all the Kar98's in the hands of rear echelon and artillery men etc, but could be when applied to rifle companies.

whitphoto19 Jan 2015 9:25 a.m. PST

They were far more common than I used to think. According to Wikipedia 424,000 of them were made by the end of the war. I always thought they were more of a novelty that saw some use by the end of the war but were far too uncommon to make a difference. But even with my extremely limited research I find it hard to argue against my opponent in Bolt Action fielding a couple in each squad.

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