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Sho Boki15 Jan 2015 4:59 p.m. PST

When I start sculpting new sets, I will put here the first picture and who recognize the uniform, get prize – one free figure, when order this set.

First quiz..

Hint and restriction – von Winterfeldt can't participate. ;)

SJDonovan Inactive Member15 Jan 2015 5:16 p.m. PST

Austrian Cuirassier 1790s?

Sho Boki15 Jan 2015 5:24 p.m. PST

Close enough, you win.
This will be universal doll for Austrian pre-1798 Chevaulegers, Dragoons and Cuirassieurs.
But Chevaulegers first.

Eclipsing Binaries16 Jan 2015 3:13 a.m. PST

I'll have set of those.

Eclipsing Binaries16 Jan 2015 3:27 a.m. PST

Will you be doing Dragoons with the cuirass and lobster-tail helmet from 1789, or the tall casquet style leather cap? Or will these have Bicornes?

SJDonovan Inactive Member16 Jan 2015 3:39 a.m. PST

@Sho Boki

I think the von Winterfeldt hint made it a bit too easy. To be honest, without that I wouldn't have had a clue.

Great sculpting by the way.

CATenWolde16 Jan 2015 3:46 a.m. PST

Great! This is in 15mm? Are you planning on recreating your 6mm early Austrian fusilier in 15mm as well, or just doing select figures in both scales, or …?

Sho Boki16 Jan 2015 5:21 a.m. PST

Von Winterweldt can't participate because he supplies me with enourmos amount of researching materials about early Austrians and definitely can recognize the four times folded cloth under saddle on picture.

Eclipsing Binaries, I focused on Chevauleggers now and can't say anything about Dragoons modifications yet, except that (tri)bicornes will be definitely.

CATenWolde, until I can't do better and there are plenty of uncovered units, I don't sculpt units wich are already covered by Tony Barton. The only exceptions may be, if Tony's figures are not in 1:100 scale or covering will be as subproduct from my other sculpts. Like early Austrian Chevauleggers may be converted to Dragoons just by switching headgears.

Eclipsing Binaries16 Jan 2015 7:34 a.m. PST

Do you have a picture reference for the folded saddle cloth? I haven't seen that before.

I use the Osprey Austrian Army Books 1 & 2 and Napoleon's Campaigns in Italy, along with Philip Hawthornthwaite's "Uniforms of the French Revolutionary Wars" as reference, but can't see a saddle cloth like that.

Sho Boki16 Jan 2015 7:55 a.m. PST

Not saddle cloth or shabraque.. but simple grey cloth for upholstering.
Well seen on color plates F and H of Osprey MaA 271.

von Winterfeldt16 Jan 2015 2:27 p.m. PST

Sho Boki is pulling all our legs, I wouldn't have recognized anything, my first shoot would have missed the traget by miles ;-).

The Chevaulegers did wear the Kaskett, similar to the infantry but with a higher front, all well shown in the 1767 illustrated regulation and as well as the so called Mollo 1798 black and white prints in the ASK Brown collection which show superb detail

Sho Boki18 Jan 2015 6:37 p.m. PST

Second Quiz..


von Winterfeldt can't participate again.
This is not hint, he just know that I planned to sculpt these.

paulalba Inactive Member19 Jan 2015 6:01 a.m. PST

Some sort of fancy hussars?

Sho Boki19 Jan 2015 6:55 a.m. PST

No.
Hint – this is tricky quiz. ;) Something about scale.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2015 7:00 a.m. PST

Tell me you are doing 28mm (too good to be true)

Sho Boki19 Jan 2015 7:05 a.m. PST

No-no.. :-)
Scale is 1:100. I now sculpt all 15(18)mm as 1:100. No scale creep anymore.

Eclipsing Binaries19 Jan 2015 7:22 a.m. PST

Is it a chasseur?

Sho Boki19 Jan 2015 7:31 a.m. PST

No.
This troops also may have no stripes on trousers or have long trousers.

Sho Boki19 Jan 2015 10:16 a.m. PST

Penultimate hint – this troopers wear sabretaches.

Eclipsing Binaries19 Jan 2015 10:42 a.m. PST

It may be a Lancer (or maybe Uhlan) of some sort then as I always thought sabertaches were worn only by light cavalry, if its not a hussar or a chasseur. Unless its an ADC?

Eclipsing Binaries19 Jan 2015 10:43 a.m. PST

Last guess… Horse Artillery?

PS
I need a Murat for Marengo. Which of your set would be closest?

WeeWars19 Jan 2015 10:45 a.m. PST

Insurrection cavalry?

Sho Boki19 Jan 2015 3:23 p.m. PST

Lancer is right, but which lancer?

Murat wear 12.Chasseur-a-Cheval uniform on Marengo?
12emechasseurs.clicforum.com/t8-Portrait-de-Murat-au-12eme-Chasseurs.htm
Then closest match will be hussar uniform, painted green. But anyway it will be very different.

Eclipsing Binaries19 Jan 2015 4:08 p.m. PST

I have no idea what lancer, but as you are also working on the Guard Cossacks could it be a Tchougouiev Cossack Ulhan? Or Volhynia Uhlan? I am just taking wild guesses now.

Sho Boki19 Jan 2015 5:02 p.m. PST

Not cossack.

Previous hints was..
1. This is tricky quiz. Something about scale.
I now sculpt all 15(18)mm as 1:100. No scale creep anymore.
2. This troops also may have no stripes on trousers or have long trousers.
3. This troopers wear sabretaches.

And now last hint..
4. You may found these troopers on my homepage.
boki.ee

WeeWars19 Jan 2015 6:08 p.m. PST

Either Tutchkov or Dohturov lancers?

Sho Boki19 Jan 2015 6:27 p.m. PST

Not russians..
You found such infantry generals unknown lancers in my homepage? ;-)

There are only one kind of lancers in my homepage, who are not cossacks and are not sculpted by AB.

von Winterfeldt20 Jan 2015 12:00 a.m. PST

Start with a
T
end with a
Y
perhaps

WeeWars20 Jan 2015 5:51 a.m. PST

R. 9 Towarczys Noble 1st Squadron 1806

picture

von Winterfeldt20 Jan 2015 6:38 a.m. PST

my favourite, thanks to the very generous ASK Brown collection, live long and prosper

picture

Sho Boki20 Jan 2015 6:42 a.m. PST

Correct! You win, WeeWars.
And as I said before von Winterfeldt knows. ;-)

As my previous Towarczys are oversized for light cavalry (big 18mm), I start to sculpt new ones in correct 1:100 size.

von Winterfeldt20 Jan 2015 6:45 a.m. PST

I applaud such enthusiasm, and despite having the bigger Towarcys already, I will not resist buying a lot more in the 1 / 100 range.

Can we hope for a carabinier as well – firing his rifle?

Sho Boki20 Jan 2015 7:12 a.m. PST

This is possible, but wargaming figures first.

von Winterfeldt20 Jan 2015 7:43 a.m. PST

it is a wargaming figure, don't forget – skirmishing cavalry did exist and was used all the time

Sho Boki20 Jan 2015 8:13 a.m. PST

As skirmish markers – yes. Under wargaming figures I mean troopers – standing shoulder to shoulder, knee to knee. Even charging figures are only markers for me, as they are accurate only for small fraction of move.

Eclipsing Binaries20 Jan 2015 9:54 a.m. PST

Well done WeeWars

:(

On a positive note, I found loads of great reference pictures of Russian Cossack Lancers while scouring the internet trying to get the answer. Can I share them here to see if we can tempt Sho Boki into even more miniature greatness?

Sho Boki20 Jan 2015 10:17 a.m. PST

Not here, please. This is topic for quiz.
But if you open new topic, this will be OK.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2015 10:23 a.m. PST

Is it not unusual to see lancers of this era carrying a sabretrache? But I guess this is not the Polish Uhlan look, that became almost universal……..

Sho Boki20 Jan 2015 7:22 p.m. PST

Third quiz..


Full fur shabraque.

Everybody may answer..

von Winterfeldt21 Jan 2015 3:49 a.m. PST

no clue but lets guess

Hetman Platov

Sho Boki21 Jan 2015 7:51 a.m. PST

No-no.. this is trooper, not personality.
Famous unit. Even have nickname.
Many people asked me to sculpt these..

von Winterfeldt21 Jan 2015 8:31 a.m. PST

so that is no sheepskin saddle cover, a famous unit with nickname?

No clue, my next guess would have been Krakusen

VonBlucher21 Jan 2015 8:56 a.m. PST

Sho,
Even though I was tempted to purchase your original Towarczys, I also thought they were a little to big. But I'm in on the resculps.

John

Sho Boki21 Jan 2015 9:06 a.m. PST

von Winterfeldt win. This is Krakusen regiment.. or as Napoleon says "My Pygmy Cavalry".

They have sheepskin saddle cover? On illustrations its seems to me as bear fur.

VonBlucher, they was my first figures for sale and first ones usually goes wrong. In this case too big. This mistake must be corrected.

von Winterfeldt21 Jan 2015 10:40 a.m. PST

I agree that they did not have sheepskin cover – for that reason I had to reflect hard what cavalry unit would be on a fur saddle cloth.

The Krakusen had plenty of variations as well, what kind do you sculpt?

You have without any doubt the Morawski plates?

Sho Boki21 Jan 2015 12:00 p.m. PST

Yes.. Morawski/Wielecki "Wojsko Ksiestwa Warszawskiego. Kawaleria."
The best what I found.

baxterj21 Jan 2015 1:26 p.m. PST

Wow Sho, count me in for the Krakus :)

paulalba Inactive Member21 Jan 2015 6:52 p.m. PST

Yip and me.

Sho Boki09 Feb 2015 8:33 a.m. PST

Fourth quiz.. this time personage.

Paulalba can't participate. He ordered this personage.

Eclipsing Binaries09 Feb 2015 9:19 a.m. PST

Kutuzov?

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