"Battlefield accessories 28mm Vauban fortress" Topic

Hi all

Been working on a new laser cutting project…28mm Vauban fortifications

It's official launch will be at cancon this year

The plan is to do two variants
A standard version and a deluxe version. The difference will be that the deluxe version will have stone work engraved on the front and rear walls

The kit will contain 4 walls 2 bastions a gate and a ravelin (sp?). Also a destroyed wall. (This will require some additional modelling)

Ball park pricing
Standard kit will be $150. USD Deluxe $220 USD (the extra engraving time is a killer)

I will have united stock at cancon so if you are keen droplets a line so I can put one aside for you. Deluxe kit will be done as a special order

Deluxe version with 2 extra ravelins
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Gate
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Wall
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Wall rear
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Ravelin

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Design of the full set is a half fortress. Walls are 28cm long and about 9cm tall. Bastions about 28square. Ravelins similar but about 6cm high

Will be on display at cancon (7 years war siege participation game) plus at the eureka trade stand

Further details contact me mike.parker@tpg.com.au

awesome, but not a star fort.

(if I had the money, I would be asking for a star fort)

This should be posted in the 18th century forum, too. Me thinks.

I tried. But I'm in the outback!! Zero bandwidth. Will repost when I get back to civilisation.

Vauban forts come in all sorts of configurations. The kit is designed to represent a section of the works rather than the whole thing

This looks great!

Very nice workmanship, but neither the main walls nor the bastion sides should meet at right angles. Genuinely sorry to rain on your parade, but this layout makes no sense in gunnery terms. Happy to discuss improving it, if it' not too late?

I could imagine any other angle would have been very challenging to produce and, whilst I know little about Vauban and have never yet got up to the attics of la Musee de l'Armee to see what I am told is worth it, these do look like his work to an untutored eye.

A little slack needed, although it does sound as though you may be right. Bit like the glacis plate, the sloped armour, of a T34 or Panther I guess?

I agree with Musketier. You might want to look again at the angles of the bastions. A simple search in Google images should do it.

It might be difficult with a laser model but in 28mm the current proposal looks a little odd.

It looks ideal for my GWI project

Have you decided what rules you are going to use at CanCon?

The siege game is going to be done in two scales. The whole siege using some new piquet system in 15mm. sorties and assaults being done in 28mm using sharp practice. It's not my game I've just been chatting with Peter who is coordinating the whole thing

On the angles…I was originally working to a pentagon template but as I was doing research I realised that the notion of a standard layout is a bit of a myth. All sorts of varients can be found (including a square one). As I figured that most people would use the fort on the edge of their table rather than trying to do a full fortress, I figured that the simplest design would be best. It also means that if you wanted a full fortress you need 2 kits and the whole thing is done. If it's a pentagon then that can get messy.

It might be hard to see from the images but the bastions to enfalaide the walls.

Like all war games terrain. A compromise between reality and practicality 😄

St Martin de Ré was precisely the example I tried but failed to link in my post above, since you've gone for the fairly rare, square layout. Notice how bastion faces meet at an acute angle, thereby covering the ravelin faces in front, while the shorter bastion flanks (which wouldn't need to be curved) each cover the neighbouring bastion's face.

Compromises may be necessary, but this one results in plenty of dead ground and fairly narrow beaten zones – CanCon attackers, take heed!

Again I agree with Musketier.

The whole idea is to leave no part of the wall, bastion face or ravelin face which could not be fired up from another part of the wall, bastion face or ravelin. Otherwise enemy miners can just walk up to the dead ground at the base of your bastion wall and start digging their mines without fear of being fired upon.

I am sorry to be so critical but obviously you have put so much work into this and it would be a shame to attract criticism at CanCon rather than praise for your work.

Same here – apologies for sounding like a curmudgeon (probably shouldn't post when tired).

I do like your handiwork, esp. the widening embrasures which you've captured very well. Perhaps it is the camera angle, and they actually do allow for crossfire; I guess the game will tell!

I also agree that in 28mm, the action is likely to come down to one front of the curtain wall, the two adjacent bastion faces (and there lies the rub) and any ravelin in front, so the overall plan of the fortress becomes irrelevant.

Being based in Europe, I didn't realise that CanCon is at the end of the month – definitely too late for criticism, even of the most constructive intention… So, here's wishing you success in your venture!

I can see what you mean. Originally I wasn't going to do ravelins so the interaction with the rest of the fort was not considered. I'll have to look at.

Happy to discuss this further by email if you like.

See here for the general principle, and why wall and bastion flank should form an ever-so-slightly open angle:

(Picture from C.Duffy, Fire and Stone, found here:
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Another four-sided example, more relevant to Sharpe Practice perhaps, is Forte da Graca at Elvas:
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G'night!