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Tango0121 Dec 2014 9:29 p.m. PST

"ABOUT 100 foreign Islamic State fighters reportedly have been executed after trying to flee the group, raising fears about Australians wanting to leave the conflict.

Britain's Financial Times quoted an unnamed Syrian activist saying 100 executions of foreign fighters trying to leave the group had been confirmed in Islamic State's proclaimed capital Raqqa.

Australian authorities declined to comment on whether any Australians may have been among the dead.

The report comes months after former Sydney man Mohammad Daniel, more commonly known as 42-year-old New Zealander Mark John Taylor, claimed he wished to leave Syria after fighting with the al Qa'ida-backed Jabhat al-Nusra and said he had sought a new passport. He has since joined Islamic State, also known as ISIS…"
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Cyrus the Great21 Dec 2014 10:08 p.m. PST

Funny I get this.

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I would never interfere with The Caliphate's internal matters!

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2014 8:10 a.m. PST

Well how ever many Daish kills of their own in their own ranks is than many that don't have to killed by the rest of us …

Jemima Fawr22 Dec 2014 10:04 a.m. PST

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Mako1122 Dec 2014 10:56 a.m. PST

How uncivilized.

I'm sure that will help their recruitment campaign.

cosmicbank22 Dec 2014 11:17 a.m. PST

Take a -2 on their morale roll. And save there home country legals fee or a bullet depending on level of legal system.

Lion in the Stars22 Dec 2014 1:06 p.m. PST


Pretty much.

tuscaloosa22 Dec 2014 5:48 p.m. PST

What really is annoying are the countries like Germany, who basically admit "Well, if the radicals leave here to go to Syria to fight, we just won't readmit them to Germany".

Which ignores all the damage and violence they can cause in other people's countries. Wish they'd give more effort to recognising and addressing the problem at home, instead of just exporting it, where our (American) tax dollars are spent killing them.

Tango0122 Dec 2014 11:21 p.m. PST

The French are doing the same my friend.
Are you sure the problem is at home?.
I'm interested to know on what basis do you say that.

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Jcfrog23 Dec 2014 5:40 a.m. PST

best that one way or another they stay over there. Eternally.

Lion in the Stars23 Dec 2014 4:19 p.m. PST

At least in Australia, the problem seems to be strongest among the children of immigrants (I have not seen a comparable study done for America, but I believe the study is applicable to all nations). The children of immigrants don't fit in at school, their parents don't fit in because they don't speak English, so they are culturally outsiders.

Those troubled individuals then strongly object to "the culture that rejected them", often turning towards religion to find a place to belong. And given that parts of the Koran are very much in the spirit of "death to those who reject this message", you get home-grown radicalized Muslims.

The only way to stop the radicalization is to make sure that the immigrants are no longer cultural outsiders, but that's seen as being culturally insensitive.

Deadone23 Dec 2014 6:52 p.m. PST

Lion,

You're assuming the original ones aren't fundamentalist in the first place.

A lot of Australian muslim migrants come from Lebanon, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iran etc. All countries with fundamentalist Islam. Several Australian terrorists were actually foreign born who came to Australia as refugees including the latest one in the afe (refugee from Iran).

You can't make people change their religious or cultural outlook.

They come to Australia and see an "infidel cultures of drunks and Bleeped texts."

My parents are from a secular European background and they have hated the Australian culture since 1982 when they first moved here. Many other migrants are similar(some studies show up to 40% of all migrants are unhappy with their new homes). This is one of the reasons they ty to replicate their own cultures in their new countries (e.g. Chinatowns or Little Italies). Most migrants are not violent.


The problem with Islam is that it is intrinsically a violent, missionary type of religion that prescribes very strict living guidelines. And it's been getting more fundamentalist since 1970s.

Hence a disgruntled Muslim living in Australia or France or USA will be more likely to view it as their religious obligation to spread Islam. They will turn to the growing number of violent fundamentalist dogmas promoted by many Islamic clerics.

And as Islam allows and even promotes violence, they're more likely to go and commit violent acts than a Vietnamese Buddhist or Croatian catholic or whatever.

Lion in the Stars23 Dec 2014 8:00 p.m. PST

You're assuming the original ones aren't fundamentalist in the first place.
Granted, but I usually assume that most of the Muslims leaving a place as refugees/emigrants are the less-religious/more tolerant of others.

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