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JimDuncanUK20 Dec 2014 6:43 a.m. PST

I made a few tests to help decision making for a webfriend (and myself too).

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Worth a look if you are planning to paint dark blue uniforms such as Napoleonic French.

There will be many other combinations too, what's yours?

ernieR20 Dec 2014 7:30 a.m. PST

is your plan to do the blue and wash and then paint over that for white pants etc ? because i haven't found a wash that i like with white pants .

JimDuncanUK20 Dec 2014 7:33 a.m. PST

That depends on how dirty (campaign look) I want the figures to be.

wrgmr120 Dec 2014 9:56 a.m. PST

They all look grey to me, or maybe it's just the camera.
I would experiment with a medium or light blue then wash and see what happens.

Any wash I used really dulled the color.

White pants: I painted them cream first, then washed with a medium brown tone.

Washes over yellow and white: The reds were a very bright red, same for the yellows.

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Same wash over Tigermen.

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Personal logo Jlundberg Supporting Member of TMP20 Dec 2014 10:23 a.m. PST

For Napoleonics and anything else I want with bright colors, I wash, but then manually highlight

Timmo uk20 Dec 2014 2:13 p.m. PST

Bug has hit. Try again. Paint dark blue and wash with thin black paint – French Napoleonic blue was very dark. Don't wash the whole figure only the blue. Take a different approach for the whites.

wargame insomniac20 Dec 2014 3:07 p.m. PST

Thanks Jim. That does help.

I have some painted figures, block painted to basic gaming standard. The plan was to shade them with dip and then highlight them afterwards.

Initially mainly greatcoated Line and Guard so will be a mixture of dark blue, grey and beige coats.

On the blue the Strong Tone and Dark Tone are pretty similar. However I reckon that Strong Tone will be kinder on lighter colours.

Westmarcher21 Dec 2014 6:08 a.m. PST

I'm sorry, Jim, I don't find any of them working for me but I appreciate what you are aiming for and that everyone has their own likes and dislikes (an honest opinion – nothing more). If the aim is to be as authentic as possible, go for the darkest. All too often IMHO, wargamers get the shade wrong for French Naps. (some of whom keep repeating the mantra that "you need lighter shades for miniatures").

I would be tempted to try something really dark, like Navy or Vallejo Dark Prussian Blue, and highlight manually with a lighter shade. Having said all of that, although 5 is the darkest, I find 4 rather fetching! How fickle am I? D'oh!

JimDuncanUK21 Dec 2014 7:59 a.m. PST

Thanks for all the comments guys.

The tests I performed were for the benefit of a webfriend and I was in a helpful mood.

I have since stripped the figures and will paint them again in a more traditional style.

wrgmr121 Dec 2014 11:54 a.m. PST

Westmarcher: For my Prussians first I use Liquitex Prussian Blue which is very dark, then Mix 3 drops of Liquitex Prussian Blue with 1 drop of Americana medium blue for a highlight.

French: I do the same but start with the Prussian highlight. 3 drops of Liquitex Prussian Blue with 1 of Americana medium blue. Highlighted by 3 drops of Prussian Blue and 2 of medium blue.

Just my technique.

JezEger22 Dec 2014 7:59 a.m. PST

My method, which works for me. My spray primer is mid grey. Quick black oil wash (I guess acrylic would do the same thing, but oil is super economical – mixed with turps it dries in no time). Then not quite dry brush (ie, wet brush, but not loaded) of dark blue (base colour). Then highlight with a Royal sort of blue. If you're feeling artistic, another sparse highlight of a lighter blue helps them to pop.

BelgianRay22 Dec 2014 1:11 p.m. PST

Foundry triad works fine (and quick). The "dip" is in my humble opinion : useless and messy.

wargame insomniac23 Dec 2014 11:43 a.m. PST

Jim

I started with some of my Perry greatcoat Line Infantry. I tried Strong Tone Dip this morning on a sample of 3 models with grey greatcoats. I am going to leave them to dry overnight and see how they look in the morning.

I might try a couple with Soft Tone and a couple with Dark Tone to compare. Then once I have settled on which Tone, I have got a couple of hundred block painted French Line Infantry in greatcoats to Dip and then highlight. Then afterwards some blue Bardin uniforms before turning to the Garde Imperiale…..

wargame insomniac24 Dec 2014 8:01 a.m. PST

Tried the Soft Tone dip on grey greatcoats. Did nt show up enough contrast. Done a few more with Strong Tone – will leae a couple of days over Christmas to dry.

JimDuncanUK27 Dec 2014 3:59 p.m. PST

@wargame insomniac

Keep on posting!

wargame insomniac01 Jan 2015 2:33 p.m. PST

Hi Jim.

Not made much progress with being away for Christmas.
Did glue together an Italieri model church as part of scenery plans.

Started a new blog to keep a record of my progress:
link

Will post when I have some WIP pictures.

Cheers

James

JimDuncanUK02 Jan 2015 5:02 a.m. PST

@wargame insomniac

Good start on the blog.

Remember to add a 'followers' gadget.

wargame insomniac02 Jan 2015 6:43 a.m. PST

Hi Jim – I might have to google how to do that when I'm home as this was my first time ever entering the blog world.

JimDuncanUK02 Jan 2015 12:38 p.m. PST

@wargame insomniac

On Blogger go to DESIGN and then LAYOUT and then select a GADGET, there are several to choose from.

wargame insomniac03 Jan 2015 8:42 a.m. PST

Nice one – thanks Jim!!

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