| serge joe | 19 Dec 2014 1:35 p.m. PST |
gentsLike the sabres made of the beter steel why not make the cuiras of beter steel ?
And other equipment like helmtes? greetings serge joe |
| MajorB | 19 Dec 2014 1:40 p.m. PST |
why not make the cuirass of better steel ? Too expensive. |
| serge joe | 19 Dec 2014 1:41 p.m. PST |
Thinner ofcoures but harde greeting serge joe |
| OSchmidt | 19 Dec 2014 1:42 p.m. PST |
Dear Serge Fine for the cuirass, but there's the legs, arms, face, and the horse which comprise most of the surface area to soak up bullets than the cuirass. In any case most cuirass already WERE proof against bullets. You can see the proof marks in them which is from a pistol discharged a foot away from the thing. That's for a pistol. A musket has a lot more powder and force behind it. To make the Curass able to resist a musket ball you'd have to go back to the tilting armor of the Middle Ages-- and heavier. I am pretty sure the cuirass was there to prevent the most deadly of sword blows- the thrust. |
| serge joe | 19 Dec 2014 1:44 p.m. PST |
Napoleon would pay but beter protection for the troopers! have a good x mas and happy new year greetings serge joe |
| 4th Cuirassier | 19 Dec 2014 2:19 p.m. PST |
In any case most cuirass already WERE proof against bullets. You can see the proof marks in them which is from a pistol discharged a foot away from the thing. A cuirass would not keep out a bullet. |
Gunfreak  | 19 Dec 2014 4:33 p.m. PST |
As far as I know, "proofing" was a medieval/renessanse thing, and been stopped long before the napoleonic period. |
 ochoin | 20 Dec 2014 12:52 a.m. PST |
I think we've discussed cuirasses before. Correct me if I'm wrong but certainly useful against white weapons but otherwise a morale booster rather than practical protection. |
| Mike the Analyst | 20 Dec 2014 4:38 a.m. PST |
The Genie (engineers) were equipped with heavier cuirass and helmet for protection when working at the head of a sap. see TMP link |
| langobard | 20 Dec 2014 4:44 a.m. PST |
Yes, as I recall the cuirass was indeed 'proofed' (and as pointed out above, you can see the mark on extant cuirasses, but as Elting notes in 'Swords Around a Thone' (page 230 of my edition): 'Fabrication of armour took time.At first the breast plates were 'prooved' by three musket shots at thirty paces, but the number of rejects under that system brought howls of protest from the patriotic businessmen who were manufacturing them and from their friends in the War Ministry. Eventually one short 'at long range' was subsituted. By late 1804 all 12 regiments were fully equiped…' Hopefully this helps, it was certainly a morale booster for the soldier, but not a lot of help at anything under 'long range' ;) |
| Major Bloodnok | 20 Dec 2014 6:22 a.m. PST |
The long and the short of this is: If it was economically feasable, tech'ncally feasable, and it didn't leave you lying on the ground, stuck in the mud after your horse was killed then it would have happened. Again if feasable you would have still seen fully armoured kniggets riding down squares, but you didn't. Now if Boney had kevlar…. |
| serge joe | 20 Dec 2014 9:04 a.m. PST |
o. k But helmets too?I think we've discussed cuirasses b. t.w
I did greetings serge joe before. |
| Major Bloodnok | 21 Dec 2014 6:53 a.m. PST |
I doub't if cavalry helmets were ever ment to be bulletproof, just strong enough to save your bonce from a sabre slash. Brass helmets aren't going to stop much other than sword blows. WWI, WWII steel helmets are not bullet proof either. |
| Mike the Analyst | 27 Dec 2014 6:24 a.m. PST |
Some informaton here – in French mostly link |
| serge joe | 27 Dec 2014 9:36 a.m. PST |
Dear ,
Mike the Mug did not think of this one but thanks to remind me again greetings serge joe |
| Royal Marine | 28 Dec 2014 4:37 a.m. PST |
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returns to Flintloque to paint an Ogre.
