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Cacique Caribe17 Dec 2014 2:26 p.m. PST

Just curious …

The so-called "Pirate Age" covers multiple centuries (1500-1800), and ship design changed considerably during that time, apparently more in the West than in Asia.

For example …

Drake's Golden Hind, launched in 1577:

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Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley, launched 1695:

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Supposedly similar to the Charles Galley, 1688:

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Blackbeard's Queen Ann's Revenge, built in 1710:

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Jean LafItte's schooners were similar to this one in 1810:

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QUESTIONS:

So, to which part of the "Pirate Age" would your ships belong to most?

Do the figures you bought (pirates and government forces) influence your naval design choice?

Dan

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian17 Dec 2014 3:27 p.m. PST

Early 1700's to go with my OG pirates. I scratchbuild my ships.

The Beast Rampant17 Dec 2014 3:28 p.m. PST

My piratical adventures center around the Hawkins, Drake and the gang, so the last quarter of the sixteenth century, maybe as early as the 1550's.

The so-called "Golden Age of Piracy" is fun and all, but a bit too "mainstream" for my tastes. grin

Mako1117 Dec 2014 3:30 p.m. PST

I generally prefer the look of vessels from the 1650s – 1700s, but will stretch that out to 1720, for the Golden Age of Pirates.

Sadly, there are few "pirate ships" available, that look the part, for those eras.

Yes, for the choices I have, though as mentioned, one must make certain accommodations.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP17 Dec 2014 4:11 p.m. PST

I scratchbuild my ships.

Pics?

What scale?

- Ix

Coelacanth17 Dec 2014 4:33 p.m. PST

Huzzah for the English Sea Dogs!

Ron

Only Warlock17 Dec 2014 4:43 p.m. PST

Early to mid 1700's

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian17 Dec 2014 4:43 p.m. PST

Pics?

What scale?

28mm balsa


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jpattern217 Dec 2014 5:26 p.m. PST

There are also the Barbary pirates. My go-to pirate ship would be a lateen-rigged Xebec, although I don't have a model for gaming (yet).

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War In 15MM17 Dec 2014 6:39 p.m. PST

My pirate ships are directly linked to the release of three of the four Disney Pirates of the Caribbean movies. They are toys marketed with the release of the different films. I picked them up cheap (from $3 USD to $10 USD) as broken toys at the swap meet and restored and repurposed them for use with my 28mm pirates. You can see them at warin15mm.com/Pirates.html

Winston Smith17 Dec 2014 6:41 p.m. PST

My pirate ships were from whoever made the nicest 28mm resin ships that would hold a bunch of figures without rigging getting in the way. Pretty generic, hainna?

HarryHotspurEsq18 Dec 2014 5:56 a.m. PST

Later 17th C. these days. Always used to be late 16th though.

Personal logo Sergeant Paper Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2014 6:43 a.m. PST

I have 16th, 18th, and 19th, I've thought about adding 20th (early 20th, Chinese pirates, not late 20th Somalis…)

doctorphalanx18 Dec 2014 8:13 a.m. PST

Late 17th, early 18th as this is what the Peter Pig 1/450 ships seem to represent, though the Fluyt looks more archaic.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Dec 2014 2:52 p.m. PST

Peter Pig stuff is all 1720. Flute was an odd design so as to be easy for a small crew to manage but it is correct for the 1720 time.

martin

doctorphalanx19 Dec 2014 12:16 a.m. PST

Martin

It would be great if you could see your way to doing a Xebec!

Richard

Cacique Caribe19 Dec 2014 12:27 p.m. PST

Is this a Xebec?

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Looks like a cross between an pared galley and an Arab Dhow.

Dan
PS. And are you looking for 15-18mm or for 28mm?

HarryHotspurEsq19 Dec 2014 2:07 p.m. PST

Dan, yes, that's pretty much what a xebec was. 1/450 for me these days (4mm). I am using Peter Pig ships for my new rules set – as it seems are many of my playtesters…

A 1/450 Barbary range (xebec, dhow and galley/galliot) would be most appreciated :)

Cacique Caribe19 Dec 2014 4:24 p.m. PST

Harry,

Wow. That's tiny!

By the way, this was the source of the image:

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Dan

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