| maciek72 | 14 Dec 2014 10:41 a.m. PST |
Im sure that everybody here knows superb webpage about British regiments in America
fifedrum.org/crfd/BD_1R.htm I wonder if author of all these reconstructions attributed certain types of wreaths to colours of specific regments basing on any source or he did it at random. Do we know the images of AWI colours or we rely on royal warrant only ?
Or maybe Milne's "Standards and Colours" has the answer ? |
| Rich Bliss | 14 Dec 2014 11:40 a.m. PST |
I seem to recall reading somewhere that Regiments that were present at the battle of Minden were allowed wreaths on their colors. |
| inverugie | 14 Dec 2014 12:06 p.m. PST |
I think you'll find that's Fontenoy rather than Minden. |
| Camcleod | 14 Dec 2014 12:48 p.m. PST |
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| spontoon | 15 Dec 2014 7:00 p.m. PST |
Fontenoy or Minden, sounds apocryphal. |
| maciek72 | 16 Dec 2014 1:18 p.m. PST |
Many, many thanks Camcleod.
BTW. How many British 18th colours survived ? |
| Supercilius Maximus | 16 Dec 2014 11:30 p.m. PST |
Very few, given that they were replaced roughly every 20 years or so, on average. The concept of sewing them onto nets and hanging them in churches is very much a 19th Century practice, and probably started in the small chapels/churches on the private estates of the Colonel. Prior to that, a set of colours could have many fates – some were burnt; some were buried with the Colonel, or the battalion CO if he was well liked; some were cut up and distributed among the officers; some were kept with the regimental archives which, until the arrival of permanent depots, travelled with the regiment wherever it went (often being lost during service abroad). The practice of carrying a wreath (usually laurel leaves) around the top of the staff, rather than sewn onto the colours themselves, is also 19th Century and commemorates battle honours; some were awarded retrospectively for earlier battles. Today, it is a practice used by many units when they parade on the anniversary of a battle honour – eg the Foot Guards if, say, Trooping the Colour falls on the anniversary of one of the battle honours of the regiment trooping its colour. |
| Camcleod | 17 Dec 2014 10:27 a.m. PST |
maciek72 Here is another site with some flag pics and a good explanation on what they actually looked like. link |
| maciek72 | 18 Dec 2014 8:23 a.m. PST |
Oh, thanks a lot Camcleod.
I know this site but somehow forgot about it.
A lot of usefull informations !
BTW.
Is the digital copy of Milne's "Standards and Colours" available online ?
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| Camcleod | 18 Dec 2014 10:56 a.m. PST |
It's listed on Google Books but not viewable. It should be as it was published in 1893 !
Found some copies for sale on abebooks.com – very expensive.
Also Caliver Books has a Print-On-Demand copy for L65.00 |
| maciek72 | 19 Dec 2014 1:07 a.m. PST |
I've found theese too, but I hoped that Google Books blocked the acces only in some countries, as it often does. |
