yarkshire gamer | 07 Dec 2014 4:03 a.m. PST |
link Morning all, we have a lòok at an AWI classic this time. Lots of pics of the set up. British Grenadier is our chosen set of rules and 28mm the scale. A sad lacking in Cavalry figs meant a few orbat tweeks on my part. Guess what I'm going to be buying at York this coming Feb ! Regards Ken Yarkshire Gamer |
Florida Tory | 07 Dec 2014 5:54 a.m. PST |
Good looking game. I played the same BG scenario last weekend with one of my sons. We only had the time and troops to use the 1:20 variant; it's nice to see that you put on the 1:10 version. The mass of troops gives a substantial presence and greater appeal to the photos. Rick |
79thPA | 07 Dec 2014 6:54 a.m. PST |
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cavcrazy | 07 Dec 2014 8:19 a.m. PST |
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Disco Joe | 07 Dec 2014 10:22 a.m. PST |
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nevinsrip | 07 Dec 2014 1:04 p.m. PST |
Nice setup. But the Highlanders were not in Kilts at Guilford. So, you need cavalry and the proper uniformed Highlanders. |
GiloUK | 07 Dec 2014 1:27 p.m. PST |
Great stuff, Ken. I see you went for the revised orbat. Funnily enough, the first time I did this scenario I didn't have any cavalry either! I suppose it's always close to the back of any AWI gamer's shopping/painting list. Thanks for posting – inspiring pics. Giles |
Gnu2000 | 07 Dec 2014 1:44 p.m. PST |
Looks good. I'm planning to game this at Salute in 2015, so this is the inspiration I need to get moving on the bits and bobs I have to finish. Steve |
jurgenation | 07 Dec 2014 1:53 p.m. PST |
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Painter Jim | 07 Dec 2014 9:35 p.m. PST |
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historygamer | 08 Dec 2014 2:34 p.m. PST |
So we did this game in 15mm at 10:1. We found that the troops units were too big for the gaming area, as we couldn't get all the third line the playing area the way they are portrayed in the scenario book. Wondering if you had this problem with the bigger figures? |
Supercilius Maximus | 08 Dec 2014 2:59 p.m. PST |
Historygamer, I think you probably need 6mm or 10mm to get all three lines onto one table with convincing distances between them. FWIW, my own view is that the battle should really be fought on at least two tables (1st/2nd defensive lines and 3rd defensive line), or maybe even three (one per defensive line), preferably isolated from each other in order to give the limited views and sense of foreboding as to who/what is going to emerge from the woods next. Yarkshire,
Well done – AWI how it should be played, with a few big units and good terrain. Get those gee-gees painted up! |
yarkshire gamer | 08 Dec 2014 6:45 p.m. PST |
Cheers for all the comments people, Cavalry are on the list of purchases, I'll leave the "proper" Highlanders for a while as I'm still in therapy after painting the tartan on the ones I have. The game is being played on an 8 x 6 lengthways. I think the key is to have 3 separate, distinct lines, with ample distance between them to allow the Brits to reform. I'll do an AAR when we get done. Regards, Ken yarkshiregamer.blogspot.co.uk |
Old Contemptibles | 09 Dec 2014 10:04 p.m. PST |
Shouldn't the other lines after the first one be hidden from view? That's how I do it. This was fought in woods, the British had no idea what was ahead of them. |
historygamer | 10 Dec 2014 7:20 a.m. PST |
SM: I meant the width of the table, not the length. IIRC, we had problems deploying the third line within its historic area due to length of the battle line. Ken: Save the trauma. The 71st wore overalls at this battle, so no tartan painting needed. |
yarkshire gamer | 10 Dec 2014 8:45 a.m. PST |
Hi, historygamer, cheers for that info blood pressure dropping already. Rallynow, I see your point and from a realistic game point of view I would agree. However in reality its hard to acheive, this is one of those classic games everyone into AWI knows of, so when the players turn up and go "Wow Guilford Court House" they know the game and whats going to happen, the only real surprise being changes in orbat due to lack of avaliable figs. Plus we havent painted best part of 1000 28mm figs to have them hiding behind woods out of sight of the camera ;-) Regards Ken yarkshiregamer.blogspot.co.uk |
Old Contemptibles | 10 Dec 2014 10:15 p.m. PST |
I have run Guilford Courthouse many times and I always have the Americans hidden. The only thing the British can see is the first American line. You just use spotting rules, very easy to do. In one game a British battalion tried to flank the first American in line in column and ran smack into a charging dragoon unit. Never saw them coming. The second line usually announces itself with a barrage of fire. It can be very jarring for the British players. It doesn't matter how many times you play it. You still are quite impressed, when coming out of the woods and there are fresh Continentals facing you. Hidden movement is part of the American advantage. |