Editor in Chief Bill | 27 Nov 2014 11:12 p.m. PST |
Should 1:35 scale models be discussed on TMP, in Hobby News and in the forums, or is this not a wargaming scale? 1:35 is relatively the same as 54mm, the traditional toy soldier size. However, 1:35 vehicles are seldom seen on the wargaming table. |
Garand | 27 Nov 2014 11:53 p.m. PST |
As someone that actively models in this scale, I'd say there are websites more topical to the discussion than here. Damon. |
iceaxe | 28 Nov 2014 12:01 a.m. PST |
I game with them, but I know I'm a minority |
JezEger | 28 Nov 2014 12:05 a.m. PST |
There are companies who advertise here who only produce 54mm, mainly Napoleonic. Plus 54mm is a good skirmish scale, and even in skirmish you need vehicles, which are all produced in 1/35 by the likes of Tamiya. Its a whole lot more relevant to a wargames forum than say… wargaming spouses. |
skippy0001 | 28 Nov 2014 12:07 a.m. PST |
Yes, 40k used 1/35th kitbashes and bits when it first came out. |
Martin Rapier | 28 Nov 2014 12:08 a.m. PST |
I don't see why not, particularly as I have 54mm stuff for both WW2 and nineteenth century, including vehicles. A minority interest? Probably, but we have lots of those anyway. |
Tacitus | 28 Nov 2014 12:16 a.m. PST |
Personally, I don't mind seeing talk about 1/35. |
Rrobbyrobot | 28 Nov 2014 1:01 a.m. PST |
Lots of folks I know play games in this scale. It should be included here, in my opinion. |
dampfpanzerwagon | 28 Nov 2014 2:52 a.m. PST |
I agree that there should be a 1/35th scale board. Let's not be a scale-snob. Tony |
nevinsrip | 28 Nov 2014 3:09 a.m. PST |
Actually 1/35 is not 54 mm. 1/32 is and it is the standard scale for most soft plastic moels. |
Trebian | 28 Nov 2014 3:15 a.m. PST |
Of course they should be included. The rate 28mm figures are growing in size we'll all be doing "1/35th" scale wargaming by the end of the decade. |
DeltaBravo | 28 Nov 2014 3:32 a.m. PST |
Hasn't this been answered by the many debates around the Needs More Boobies (or whatever its called now) forum – that this is 'The Miniatures Page' not 'The Wargaming Page', so by that logic 1/35th models/miniatures are fair game, no? |
IUsedToBeSomeone | 28 Nov 2014 4:05 a.m. PST |
I game Vietnam and WW2 in 1/35th so to me it a wargaming scale… Mike |
ZULUPAUL | 28 Nov 2014 4:10 a.m. PST |
I've seen some very nice games in 1/35th so OK by me, even though I don't personally game in that scale. |
Disco Joe | 28 Nov 2014 4:18 a.m. PST |
No they should not be. And I have a large collection of 1/35th scale armor. |
Doms Decals | 28 Nov 2014 5:29 a.m. PST |
I don't see why not – news items for photo etched super detail kits might be a bit iffy, but if it has gaming utility, fair enough – ruling it out because it's a niche interest seems the thin end of a very dodgy wedge…. |
Joes Shop | 28 Nov 2014 5:38 a.m. PST |
Yes, they should. I model and game in both 54mm and 1/35. Have several friends that do the same. |
cloudcaptain | 28 Nov 2014 5:42 a.m. PST |
I do 54mm scifi, FIW, Fantasy, Prehistoric, and Colonial gaming. There is still scale creep on this end of the spectrum too." There was a time when pretty much the only verbal 10mm players were Maksim and I. The scale has come a long way. The number of players into a niche doesn't make it appropriate or not. People game in 1/18th and 1/6th too. Best to not alienate anyone. |
Winston Smith | 28 Nov 2014 5:46 a.m. PST |
Why not? We have boards for far more bizarre stuff than that. |
Griefbringer | 28 Nov 2014 5:51 a.m. PST |
I don't really see a point in excluding models of any scale from TMP. 1/35 is a perfectly good model scale for miniature wargaming (at least if you have enough space), and the models themselves have been widely available for a long time. |
Mister Tibbles | 28 Nov 2014 6:16 a.m. PST |
There are far better forums for the scale IMO. Amazing work being shown on them. Just do a google search. |
Yesthatphil | 28 Nov 2014 6:22 a.m. PST |
Yes – in principal there is no such thing as not as wargaming scale … Yes – in practice I wargame in 54mm as well as other scales … here are some scenes from a LRDG raid game Ad Hoc did at Salute, CoW etc. a little while back featuring a largish selection of 1:35 scale vehicles …
Most of our battle gaming locally is in 15mm (or plastic 20mm) … skirmish games – especially for public shows – is often 54mm or larger. 54mm/1:32/1:35 is a standard go to scale for wargaming. Phil |
jtipp68 | 28 Nov 2014 6:52 a.m. PST |
There's a hundred boards here less relevant than 1:35 models. |
cfielitz | 28 Nov 2014 7:09 a.m. PST |
This is The Miniatures Page, so why not? |
etotheipi | 28 Nov 2014 7:37 a.m. PST |
It's a good scale and not particularly isolated to a particular genre. |
bobspruster | 28 Nov 2014 8:44 a.m. PST |
I've seen some really nice pics of 1/35th stuff in play, so I'd like to see a 1/35th board just for the eye candy, if nothing else. And maybe we could get Peter Shulman to share his rules with us. =o) peterswar.com Bob |
LaserGrenadier | 28 Nov 2014 9:09 a.m. PST |
1/35 is my scale of choice for armored vehicles in LaserGrenadiers, but I use model kits of any scale if they fit my kitbashing needs. |
alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 28 Nov 2014 9:53 a.m. PST |
Lots of people lije to build 1:35th for dioramas and just for the modelling sake of it. I'm currently trying to help find a home for a collection of 1:35th military kits in Australia, a friend of my father's passed away and he and another friend trying to help with his estate are looking for a good home for them. I have one contact in Oz who may be able to help but anyone else interested would be great just in case. Aside from 'maybe' any help with postage these are gratis, we just don't want to see them go to waste, so a club, museum, kids, anyone who you think might benefit drop me a line here. (not on PM obviously but you can send a message to me via Bill still I believe). |
jpattern2 | 28 Nov 2014 10:09 a.m. PST |
Absolutely, on the boards. In Hobby News, though, debatable. Not that it isn't at least tangentially appropriate, but there are a *lot* of 1/35 releases each month, and they could easily swamp the "true" war gaming releases. |
David Manley | 28 Nov 2014 10:38 a.m. PST |
Curious to know why you were asking? 54mm has been a recognised scale for wargaming as well as modelling for decades. |
Rabbit 3 | 28 Nov 2014 11:20 a.m. PST |
Isn`t it an old recognised `tin soldier` scale from way back? |
Silurian | 28 Nov 2014 11:58 a.m. PST |
Yes, definitely. They are miniatures, and people wargame with them. People should be able to talk about wargaming with even larger scales if they want to (had a fun game with 12" Dragon figs at a con a little while back). |
Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut | 28 Nov 2014 12:10 p.m. PST |
It would seem there is a majority of people who are very passionate about 1/35 as a gaming scale. I also support this, I had an abortive attempt to build some 1/35 squads about ten years ago. It is starting to look like a good idea again. DBA in 54mm, anyone? |
Tango01 | 28 Nov 2014 12:17 p.m. PST |
Are you kidding Bill? (smile) They are great!. See this one for example: Painted Expeditionary Force Zouaves.
From here link Amicalement Armand |
Yesthatphil | 28 Nov 2014 4:50 p.m. PST |
DBA in 54mm, anyone? Indeed punkrabbitt returns - here are my WotR 54mm DBA figures …
Phil |
79thPA | 28 Nov 2014 5:28 p.m. PST |
Does anyone know who makes those zombies? |
79thPA | 28 Nov 2014 5:49 p.m. PST |
1/35 is a wargaming scale, and is frequently on the table with its 1/32 brethren. It would certainly be more wargaming related than almost everything that is posted to the ultra modern (and a few other) board/s. Edit to add that a lot of 1/35, 1/32, 54mm conversations take place on the toy soldier board. |
jpattern2 | 28 Nov 2014 7:58 p.m. PST |
79thPA, those are the Walking Dead Zombie Army Men. They're available from many online stores, at a wide range of prices, so look for the best deal on price and shipping. This guy sells them on EBay: auction |
Editor in Chief Bill | 28 Nov 2014 9:36 p.m. PST |
Curious to know why you were asking? 54mm has been a recognised scale for wargaming as well as modelling for decades. Wondering where the borderline is for content which is relevant to TMP, and content which is not. |
79thPA | 29 Nov 2014 8:37 a.m. PST |
Seriously? We get daily updates when some Russian farts in the Ukraine. Have you noticed how many posts have nothing to do with gaming, and how many boards facilitate those conversations? |
Custer7thcav | 29 Nov 2014 9:49 a.m. PST |
I have gaming projects in 54mm or 1/32. I have gaming projects in 90mm or 1/18. I have gaming projects in 6,10,20,28,40mm- I think you get my point. As long as the focus is for use in wargaming, I see no reason for exclusion. |
Gennorm | 30 Nov 2014 1:08 a.m. PST |
If anyone plays with them, yes. |
alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 30 Nov 2014 3:11 a.m. PST |
Seriously? We get daily updates when some Russian farts in the Ukraine. Have you noticed how many posts have nothing to do with gaming, and how many boards facilitate those conversations? Lol, sorry Bill, I have to agree with this, your comment 'Wondering where the borderline is for content which is relevant to TMP, and content which is not.' is pretty ironic . It doesn't matter what we think anyway, just ask Tango ;-p (that was a joke) |
Cerdic | 30 Nov 2014 4:37 p.m. PST |
1/35 is definitely used for wargaming. ByJohn54 ( or similar) who posts here often does a massive game at Salute. And very impressive they are too! |
Mute Bystander | 01 Dec 2014 5:03 p.m. PST |
Hell yes! I won't use them but others do. As long as it stays "miniatures or war game oriented, why not? |
By John 54 | 02 Dec 2014 5:15 p.m. PST |
Thanks Cerdic, I game a lot in 1/35 and 1/32, as you all know, using Crossfire rules. in Fact at the Wargames holiday centre near Reading, in the UK, I'm putting on the first of some massive 1/35/32 scale games, first one being Oosterbeek/Arnhem, weekend of the 16/17/18 January. Google the Wargames Holiday centre for prices etc, going to be a big spectacle! I think its nearly full, but may still be spaces. See you on the Dropzones! John |
Sturer Emil | 03 Mar 2015 11:02 a.m. PST |
This might be Thread-Necromancy, but it is still on the first page, right? I would be interested in 54mm/50mm news,threads and post, especially as the WW2 1/35 ranges of miniatures let the 28mm lines look like a goldfish next to a whale. You can get everything in 1/35. Everything! And they usually look good too. All i need now are proper skirmish rules and people, who play in this scale. Emil |
John Treadaway | 04 Mar 2015 3:41 a.m. PST |
I've recently (as in over the last 25 years…) done show games in 1/35th (three different games), 1/20th, several in 1/25th, 1/10th and one of my group did a Jason and the Argonauts games in 1/6th. I've also done games in 1/100th and other scales. The key items here are: 1) Big scales work well – especially at show games. But we still play them on club nights (though granted not as often) 2) 54mm is NOT a scale, any more than 15mm, 28mm or 32mm heroic. That's a huge portion of our problem. The only other part of the modelling hobby that I can think of that lazily applies nominal sizes and calls them a scale is model railways (N gauge, O gauge, 4mm etc etc). Everybody else (model car aficionados, planes, military modelling etc etc) all seem to get by with using scales. So: Should 1:35 scale models be discussed on TMP, in Hobby News and in the forums, or is this not a wargaming scale? YES 1:35 is relatively the same as 54mm, the traditional toy soldier size. Or is it 1/32? How about we just stick to scales, eh? Righto: I'll get back off my hobby horse :) John T |
uglyfatbloke | 15 Jan 2016 11:37 a.m. PST |
More thread necromancy…does anyone know where I can get the WW2 Zombie army men? |
NYD Minis | 19 Jan 2016 7:16 a.m. PST |
I game in 1/35 scale with modern survivors and zombies, my 2 boards are 80x80cm and can be placed on the dining room table (as I have no game room) easy to build up and store (with a bit of pre-planing)
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