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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian27 Nov 2014 11:12 p.m. PST

Should 1:35 scale models be discussed on TMP, in Hobby News and in the forums, or is this not a wargaming scale?

1:35 is relatively the same as 54mm, the traditional toy soldier size.

However, 1:35 vehicles are seldom seen on the wargaming table.

Garand27 Nov 2014 11:53 p.m. PST

As someone that actively models in this scale, I'd say there are websites more topical to the discussion than here.

Damon.

iceaxe28 Nov 2014 12:01 a.m. PST

I game with them, but I know I'm a minority

JezEger28 Nov 2014 12:05 a.m. PST

There are companies who advertise here who only produce 54mm, mainly Napoleonic. Plus 54mm is a good skirmish scale, and even in skirmish you need vehicles, which are all produced in 1/35 by the likes of Tamiya. Its a whole lot more relevant to a wargames forum than say… wargaming spouses.

skippy000128 Nov 2014 12:07 a.m. PST

Yes, 40k used 1/35th kitbashes and bits when it first came out.

Martin Rapier28 Nov 2014 12:08 a.m. PST

I don't see why not, particularly as I have 54mm stuff for both WW2 and nineteenth century, including vehicles. A minority interest? Probably, but we have lots of those anyway.

Personal logo Tacitus Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 12:16 a.m. PST

Personally, I don't mind seeing talk about 1/35.

Rrobbyrobot28 Nov 2014 1:01 a.m. PST

Lots of folks I know play games in this scale. It should be included here, in my opinion.

dampfpanzerwagon Fezian28 Nov 2014 2:52 a.m. PST

I agree that there should be a 1/35th scale board.

Let's not be a scale-snob.

Tony

nevinsrip28 Nov 2014 3:09 a.m. PST

Actually 1/35 is not 54 mm.
1/32 is and it is the standard scale for most soft plastic moels.

Trebian Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 3:15 a.m. PST

Of course they should be included. The rate 28mm figures are growing in size we'll all be doing "1/35th" scale wargaming by the end of the decade.

DeltaBravo28 Nov 2014 3:32 a.m. PST

Hasn't this been answered by the many debates around the Needs More Boobies (or whatever its called now) forum – that this is 'The Miniatures Page' not 'The Wargaming Page', so by that logic 1/35th models/miniatures are fair game, no?

IUsedToBeSomeone28 Nov 2014 4:05 a.m. PST

I game Vietnam and WW2 in 1/35th so to me it a wargaming scale…

Mike

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 4:10 a.m. PST

I've seen some very nice games in 1/35th so OK by me, even though I don't personally game in that scale.

Disco Joe28 Nov 2014 4:18 a.m. PST

No they should not be. And I have a large collection of 1/35th scale armor.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 5:29 a.m. PST

I don't see why not – news items for photo etched super detail kits might be a bit iffy, but if it has gaming utility, fair enough – ruling it out because it's a niche interest seems the thin end of a very dodgy wedge….

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 5:38 a.m. PST

Yes, they should. I model and game in both 54mm and 1/35. Have several friends that do the same.

cloudcaptain28 Nov 2014 5:42 a.m. PST

I do 54mm scifi, FIW, Fantasy, Prehistoric, and Colonial gaming. There is still scale creep on this end of the spectrum too."

There was a time when pretty much the only verbal 10mm players were Maksim and I. The scale has come a long way. The number of players into a niche doesn't make it appropriate or not. People game in 1/18th and 1/6th too. Best to not alienate anyone.

Winston Smith28 Nov 2014 5:46 a.m. PST

Why not?
We have boards for far more bizarre stuff than that.

Griefbringer28 Nov 2014 5:51 a.m. PST

I don't really see a point in excluding models of any scale from TMP.

1/35 is a perfectly good model scale for miniature wargaming (at least if you have enough space), and the models themselves have been widely available for a long time.

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 6:16 a.m. PST

There are far better forums for the scale IMO. Amazing work being shown on them. Just do a google search.

Yesthatphil28 Nov 2014 6:22 a.m. PST

Yes – in principal there is no such thing as not as wargaming scale

Yes – in practice I wargame in 54mm as well as other scales … here are some scenes from a LRDG raid game Ad Hoc did at Salute, CoW etc. a little while back featuring a largish selection of 1:35 scale vehicles …

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Most of our battle gaming locally is in 15mm (or plastic 20mm) … skirmish games – especially for public shows – is often 54mm or larger. 54mm/1:32/1:35 is a standard go to scale for wargaming.

Phil

jtipp6828 Nov 2014 6:52 a.m. PST

There's a hundred boards here less relevant than 1:35 models.

cfielitz28 Nov 2014 7:09 a.m. PST

This is The Miniatures Page, so why not?

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 7:37 a.m. PST

It's a good scale and not particularly isolated to a particular genre.

bobspruster28 Nov 2014 8:44 a.m. PST

I've seen some really nice pics of 1/35th stuff in play, so I'd like to see a 1/35th board just for the eye candy, if nothing else. And maybe we could get Peter Shulman to share his rules with us. =o) peterswar.com
Bob

LaserGrenadier Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 9:09 a.m. PST

1/35 is my scale of choice for armored vehicles in LaserGrenadiers, but I use model kits of any scale if they fit my kitbashing needs.

alien BLOODY HELL surfer28 Nov 2014 9:53 a.m. PST

Lots of people lije to build 1:35th for dioramas and just for the modelling sake of it. I'm currently trying to help find a home for a collection of 1:35th military kits in Australia, a friend of my father's passed away and he and another friend trying to help with his estate are looking for a good home for them. I have one contact in Oz who may be able to help but anyone else interested would be great just in case. Aside from 'maybe' any help with postage these are gratis, we just don't want to see them go to waste, so a club, museum, kids, anyone who you think might benefit drop me a line here. (not on PM obviously but you can send a message to me via Bill still I believe).

jpattern228 Nov 2014 10:09 a.m. PST

Absolutely, on the boards.

In Hobby News, though, debatable. Not that it isn't at least tangentially appropriate, but there are a *lot* of 1/35 releases each month, and they could easily swamp the "true" war gaming releases.

David Manley28 Nov 2014 10:38 a.m. PST

Curious to know why you were asking? 54mm has been a recognised scale for wargaming as well as modelling for decades.

Rabbit 328 Nov 2014 11:20 a.m. PST

Isn`t it an old recognised `tin soldier` scale from way back?

Silurian28 Nov 2014 11:58 a.m. PST

Yes, definitely. They are miniatures, and people wargame with them.

People should be able to talk about wargaming with even larger scales if they want to (had a fun game with 12" Dragon figs at a con a little while back).

Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut28 Nov 2014 12:10 p.m. PST

It would seem there is a majority of people who are very passionate about 1/35 as a gaming scale. I also support this, I had an abortive attempt to build some 1/35 squads about ten years ago. It is starting to look like a good idea again. DBA in 54mm, anyone?

Tango0128 Nov 2014 12:17 p.m. PST

Are you kidding Bill? (smile)
They are great!. See this one for example:

Painted Expeditionary Force Zouaves.

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From here
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Amicalement
Armand

Yesthatphil28 Nov 2014 4:50 p.m. PST

DBA in 54mm, anyone?

Indeed punkrabbitt returns

- here are my WotR 54mm DBA figures …

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Phil

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 5:28 p.m. PST

Does anyone know who makes those zombies?

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2014 5:49 p.m. PST

1/35 is a wargaming scale, and is frequently on the table with its 1/32 brethren. It would certainly be more wargaming related than almost everything that is posted to the ultra modern (and a few other) board/s.

Edit to add that a lot of 1/35, 1/32, 54mm conversations take place on the toy soldier board.

jpattern228 Nov 2014 7:58 p.m. PST

79thPA, those are the Walking Dead Zombie Army Men. They're available from many online stores, at a wide range of prices, so look for the best deal on price and shipping. This guy sells them on EBay: auction

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian28 Nov 2014 9:36 p.m. PST

Curious to know why you were asking? 54mm has been a recognised scale for wargaming as well as modelling for decades.

Wondering where the borderline is for content which is relevant to TMP, and content which is not.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP29 Nov 2014 8:37 a.m. PST

Seriously? We get daily updates when some Russian farts in the Ukraine. Have you noticed how many posts have nothing to do with gaming, and how many boards facilitate those conversations?

Custer7thcav29 Nov 2014 9:49 a.m. PST

I have gaming projects in 54mm or 1/32.
I have gaming projects in 90mm or 1/18.
I have gaming projects in 6,10,20,28,40mm- I think you get my point.

As long as the focus is for use in wargaming, I see no reason for exclusion.

Gennorm30 Nov 2014 1:08 a.m. PST

If anyone plays with them, yes.

alien BLOODY HELL surfer30 Nov 2014 3:11 a.m. PST

Seriously? We get daily updates when some Russian farts in the Ukraine. Have you noticed how many posts have nothing to do with gaming, and how many boards facilitate those conversations?

Lol, sorry Bill, I have to agree with this, your comment 'Wondering where the borderline is for content which is relevant to TMP, and content which is not.' is pretty ironic grin.

It doesn't matter what we think anyway, just ask Tango ;-p grin (that was a joke)

Cerdic30 Nov 2014 4:37 p.m. PST

1/35 is definitely used for wargaming. ByJohn54 ( or similar) who posts here often does a massive game at Salute. And very impressive they are too!

Mute Bystander01 Dec 2014 5:03 p.m. PST

Hell yes!

I won't use them but others do.

As long as it stays "miniatures or war game oriented, why not?

By John 5402 Dec 2014 5:15 p.m. PST

Thanks Cerdic, I game a lot in 1/35 and 1/32, as you all know, using Crossfire rules. in Fact at the Wargames holiday centre near Reading, in the UK, I'm putting on the first of some massive 1/35/32 scale games, first one being Oosterbeek/Arnhem, weekend of the 16/17/18 January.
Google the Wargames Holiday centre for prices etc, going to be a big spectacle! I think its nearly full, but may still be spaces.
See you on the Dropzones!

John

Sturer Emil03 Mar 2015 11:02 a.m. PST

This might be Thread-Necromancy, but it is still on the first page, right?

I would be interested in 54mm/50mm news,threads and post, especially as the WW2 1/35 ranges of miniatures let the 28mm lines look like a goldfish next to a whale. You can get everything in 1/35. Everything! And they usually look good too. All i need now are proper skirmish rules and people, who play in this scale.

Emil

John Treadaway04 Mar 2015 3:41 a.m. PST

I've recently (as in over the last 25 years…) done show games in 1/35th (three different games), 1/20th, several in 1/25th, 1/10th and one of my group did a Jason and the Argonauts games in 1/6th. I've also done games in 1/100th and other scales.

The key items here are:

1) Big scales work well – especially at show games. But we still play them on club nights (though granted not as often)

2) 54mm is NOT a scale, any more than 15mm, 28mm or 32mm heroic.

That's a huge portion of our problem. The only other part of the modelling hobby that I can think of that lazily applies nominal sizes and calls them a scale is model railways (N gauge, O gauge, 4mm etc etc).

Everybody else (model car aficionados, planes, military modelling etc etc) all seem to get by with using scales.

So:

Should 1:35 scale models be discussed on TMP, in Hobby News and in the forums, or is this not a wargaming scale?

YES

1:35 is relatively the same as 54mm, the traditional toy soldier size.

Or is it 1/32? How about we just stick to scales, eh?

Righto: I'll get back off my hobby horse :)

John T

uglyfatbloke15 Jan 2016 11:37 a.m. PST

More thread necromancy…does anyone know where I can get the WW2 Zombie army men?

NYD Minis19 Jan 2016 7:16 a.m. PST

I game in 1/35 scale with modern survivors and zombies, my 2 boards are 80x80cm and can be placed on the dining room table (as I have no game room) easy to build up and store (with a bit of pre-planing)

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