Help support TMP


"The Russian Air Force's Super Weapon: Beware ..." Topic


5 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Ultramodern Warfare (2014-present) Message Board

Back to the Modern Aviation Discussion (1946-2011) Message Board


Areas of Interest

Modern

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Featured Ruleset


Featured Showcase Article

20mm U.S. Army Specialists, Episode 13

Identifying the next-to-the-last of these mysterious figures.


Featured Workbench Article

Adam Paints Hasslefree's Ray

Adam gets to paint a cool figure, and then paint his dead counterpart.


Featured Profile Article

Military Playsets at Dollar Tree

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian locates some hard-to-find military toys at the dollar store.


1,152 hits since 26 Nov 2014
©1994-2025 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 Nov 2014 9:36 p.m. PST

…the PAK-FA Stealth Fighter.

"The Russian Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA stealth fighter could prove to be a formidable competitor to American fifth-generation combat aircraft such as the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. Indeed, in some measures, the new Russian warplane will exceed both U.S.-built jets, but the PAK-FA is not without its flaws.

"The analysis that I have seen on the PAK-FA indicates a pretty sophisticated design that is at least equal to, and some have said even superior to U.S. fifth-generation aircraft," former U.S. Air Force intelligence chief Lt. Gen. Dave Deptula told the National Interest. "It certainly has greater agility with its combination of thrust vectoring, all moving tail surfaces, and excellent aerodynamic design, than does the F-35."…"
Full article here
link

Amicalement
Armand

Mako1126 Nov 2014 9:43 p.m. PST

It is a very nice looking jet.

Not as nice as the Su-27 series, but still quite attractive.

Wish someone would produce it, and a few other US and Chinese stealth jets in metal, in 1/600th scale.

Deadone26 Nov 2014 10:01 p.m. PST

Nice looking but I don't think it's going to be as much of a threat to F-22/-35 as a Su-27 is to an F-15/-16/-18.


Glad the article puts the jet in it's place – 4th generation with some stealthy bits.

There's a couple of things the article doesn't go into but which should be mentioned.

1. The engines – Russia has been proving ever more incompetent in bringing any project to any level of completion even with increases in funding. They have proven to be unable to design new airlifters, tanks and warships. Even the new Su-34 is actually an old Soviet design (1st flight 1990). Ka-50 and Mi-28 are also Soviet designs.

Hence T-50s will already be probably powered by those unreliable modified Saturn AL31s.

2. Analysis based on mere aircraft dimensions indicate frontal stealth is poorer than F-22.

Rear area stealth is non-existent.

3. The aircraft is already spiralling out of control in terms of cost. Whilst Russian estimates are unknown, the Indians have already slashed their proposed buy of 210 T-50 based FGFA to 144 due to cost overruns.

4. Potential design flaws – according to Indian deputy chief of air staff (DCAS), not only is the engine unreliable but the radar is inadequate and the stealth features are apparently badly engineered.

defenseworld.net/news/9876/Russia_Offers_Joint_Productions_On_All_Future_Defense_Deals_With_India__As_IAF_Reportedly_Criticizes_FGFA_Deal

5. Current problems in Ukraine stimy Russian military manufacturing due to some key Soviet era factories still being in Ukraine especially for such things as A2A missiles. This coupled with manufacturing problems mentioned in article means the Russians will struggle to build actual production machines.

rferl.org/content/russia-ukraine-military-equipment/25312911.html


IMO the T-50 is a stillborn dud.

skippy000126 Nov 2014 10:24 p.m. PST

Is it me or do all these new planes look alike?

Great War Ace27 Nov 2014 9:46 a.m. PST

All I ever see are "jets", ubiquitous in every detail….

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.