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The Goon from the Moon12 Nov 2014 10:59 a.m. PST

I've been gaming FASA Star Trek for years and have a nice Klingon fleet. I also have a few other bits and bobs but I want to get some Federation ships.

I have a mix of the original FASA ships and ones from Future Legends. It looks like Future Legends, no longer exist.

Anyone know where I can get ships which will fit in with what I already have?

Lion in the Stars12 Nov 2014 11:08 a.m. PST

I think you need the Zocchi ships (old plastics).

I don't know if ADB's Starline 2500 series will scale the same.

The Goon from the Moon12 Nov 2014 11:29 a.m. PST

Never heard of Zocchi. Are they in scale with what I have?

tberry740312 Nov 2014 11:41 a.m. PST

Never heard of Zocchi.

Oh, this younger gerneration! grin

Look here:

Eclipsing Binaries12 Nov 2014 11:42 a.m. PST

Zocchi are really old, but amazingly good quality plastic models that fit in scale with the FASA ships, as do the Starline 2400 models for Star Fleet Battles. The newer Starline 2500 are a lot bigger than the FASA ships.

The Goon from the Moon12 Nov 2014 11:45 a.m. PST

Younger? Lol

Anyone know if Zocchi ships are available in the UK? Fleabay have some but they're in Wisconsin.

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2014 12:01 p.m. PST

ADB is still doing their 2400, which is about the same as Zocchi.

I was thinking Ravenstar did not-FASA, but the models are either a much larger scale, or very limited number of sculpts.

Have you scanned Shapeways? I think there are some also similar, but I tend not to use printed ships.

Alas, hanger18fasa's production fell to family matters; he has my thoughts and best wishes.

Maybe someday…


Edit: Merde, that's what I get for starting a post at work, then not checking for updates. ;->= So, being 63, I can't call you the younger generation, either?

The Goon from the Moon12 Nov 2014 12:07 p.m. PST

Only just, Beast.

Darkrazor Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2014 12:21 p.m. PST

I stock Zocchi Ships as well as a line that is 3900 scale same as FASA's. I also bought Hanger 21 FASA's masters and Ravenstars.

I guess I have a good share of the stuff you are looking for :).

Beast Hope you remember me from time to time :).

The Goon from the Moon12 Nov 2014 1:45 p.m. PST

How much would we be talking for say a Constelation class inc postage to the UK?

I'm just after original series ships.

I'd probably be looking at 5 or 6 ships to combine postage.

Darkrazor Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2014 1:49 p.m. PST

I charge 10 dollars shipping to the UK

Darkrazor Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2014 1:52 p.m. PST

I just added several package deals on the Zocchi minatures on the web site

Special Package With Decals Set includes 1 Heavy Cruiser, 1 Dreadnaught , 1 Tug with 2 Pods, 1 Destroyer, 1 Scout and a special sheet of decals designed for this set exclusively with at least 2 names and hull numbers for each class of ship. $35 USD USD

Heavy Assualt Group Package Set includes 2 Heavy Cruisers, 2 Dreadnaughts and a scout. $32 USD USD

Convoy Group Pacakage Set includes 3 Tugs plus 6 Pods and 2 Destroyers for escort duty. $32 USD USD

Escort Group Package Set includes 1 Heavy Cruiser, 3 Destroyers and 1 Scout $32 USD USD

Eli Arndt12 Nov 2014 1:58 p.m. PST

Good to know. I have a FASA scaled fleet planned.


TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2014 4:07 p.m. PST

Only just, Beast.


Beast Hope you remember me from time to time :).

Now, now, I have before; truth be told, I did forget about you taking on hanger's stuff, though.

I get to claim 'old' generation, remember?


Black Hat Miniatures12 Nov 2014 4:11 p.m. PST

If you want the starline 2400 ships in the UK I have stock of the Federation Commander Squadron boxes 1-9



Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian12 Nov 2014 7:34 p.m. PST

I have a couple TNG 1/3900 scratchbuilds on eBay at the moment:


Norrins12 Nov 2014 11:29 p.m. PST

Irregular have some suitable ships. Check this thread TMP link

ANDREW LAWTON14 Nov 2014 1:50 p.m. PST

I've been Scratchbuilding , converting and casting my own design's for years, In 1/3788 scale it dosn't take alot to accomplish.(1"= @ 100M)

There's loads out there just drop for example "STAR TREK 1/3788 miniatures for sale" into a search engine and you will find more than you will ever need!

change the theme Ie Battlestar Galactica or scale and so on.

Have a look at my flker for some ideas of ranges that match scale too.



TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP20 Nov 2014 4:38 a.m. PST

As FASA used a fair number of movie-derived ships, the Polar Lights 2500 'Cadet' models give some kit-bashing possibilities for Feds, though large compared to original models.


Captain Gideon20 Nov 2014 9:12 a.m. PST

Doug when you say that FASA used a fair number of movie-derived ships can you tell me how many?

For myself I know that FASA made around 40 miniatures give or take 1 or 2 and I came up with these:

Klingon D-7
Klingon Bird of Prey
Merchantman ship
Regula Station

I would say this is a small number and not a fair number.

Just my two cents.

ANDREW LAWTON21 Nov 2014 8:00 a.m. PST

Fasa was considered a fairly cannon source when STRPG was released bask on the 80s I still consider it the Best of the Startrek RPGs, but much water has passed under the Bridge sisnce and not many of their designs were from the Series or movies but from their own approved Ideas.

So most might be considered Non canon but very nice, the problem with getting any Startrek "Remolds" is Quaility.
So much so I long ago decided to scratch build and convert MOST of my own designs based on accepted Cannon or my own Ideas.


The cgi models are examples of the 200+ or so I made for PC game SFC 1-3 Because I hated the models on the Game.

Most of the Miniatures on my fclker I have Built myself either from Molds I have made or componenets of completely original scratch-built models, The originals in the Pictures are Either old Fasa, Zochhi or various other makes I have obtained in scale to about 1/3788.

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2014 2:42 p.m. PST

@CG Of course, you're millage varies, but I think there were several sukna sin mashes. Canna recall names, but one had Reliant main, Excelsior engineering, and nacelles of an Enterprise, though I don't recall TOS or refit…

As even recognizable pieces are involved, I advisedly used the term 'derived.' I would even count several of the Romulan BoPs.

Admittedly, it's been quite awhile since I've looked at the 'updates'. I could be dreaming.


MacrossMartin27 Nov 2014 4:57 a.m. PST

Capt Gideon –

From ST 3 we can add the Grissom. It certainly appeared in the FASA range.

I guess you could also add the Kobayashi Maru, although there is no canon design for that (simulated) ship.

Captain Gideon27 Nov 2014 9:42 a.m. PST

I forgot the Grissom(Oberth class)as for the Kobayashi Maru I don't recall it ever appearing in a Star Trek movie.

demiurgex27 Nov 2014 10:31 a.m. PST

FASA is canon to me. ;)

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP27 Nov 2014 4:46 p.m. PST

FASA is canon to me. ;)

Okay by me, their contract was as good as anyone's.

Wasn't the ship in STIII that that drunk Taxi guy shot up used for the Kobayashi Maru in one or more of the FASA books? I know the scale seems wrong, but FASA used the same design as different scales elsewhere.


MacrossMartin28 Nov 2014 5:31 p.m. PST


No, Kruge spaced a Monarch class (FASA designation) freighter in STIII. The FASA Kobayashi Maru looks like this:


TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2014 5:37 a.m. PST


Thanks, MM!


green beanie01 Dec 2014 9:23 a.m. PST

I thought the freighter in "Star Trek III movie", "The Search for Spock" that the Klingon female spy was traveling on was a dead ringer for the FASA Kobayashi Maru model? The Bird of Prey destroyed it in the movie.

Captain Gideon01 Dec 2014 10:14 a.m. PST

green beanie if you have seen the FASA minis then you wouldn't be mistaking the ship in ST III as the Kobayashi Maru.

The Goon from the Moon01 Apr 2016 11:05 a.m. PST

Is Dark razor about?
I'd like to order some miniatures.

Darkrazor Supporting Member of TMP15 Apr 2016 10:49 a.m. PST

Give me your email

tkdguy15 Apr 2016 11:59 p.m. PST

The Kobayashi Maru scene was in The Wrath of Khan. Saavik was taking the test and thus "in command" of the Enterprise. She failed. Later in the same movie, Kirk explained he beat the game by changing the victory conditions.

As for miniatures, I still have my D10 and USS Grissom, which is listed as a Gagarin-class starhip (the Oberth name came later). My Enterprise was sadly lost decades ago. A friend still has his ships.

The Goon from the Moon26 Apr 2016 11:22 a.m. PST

Hi Darkrazor

My email is

Part time gamer19 May 2016 12:09 a.m. PST

I did not see anyone mention (ADB), Amarillo Design Burea. They have lot of Federation ships in their "Star Line 2400" series.
They used to have some of the Zocci plastics individually, however they do have the Fed. Fleet Box #91 (page 2) that has All 5 of his ships, the Fed DN, CA, DD, Scout, and Tug for about $40 USD, if your still looking.


This "should" take you right to them. Good luck.

trynda170119 May 2016 9:16 a.m. PST

Can I just say that the scratchbuilds that Andrew Lawton has posted links to are amazing, as are their paint jobs.

I thought a couple were modified FASA minis, but I see that the saucers have differing details (eg the impulse engine details). I would love Andrew to post some sort of tutorial on his scratchbuilding techniques and painting methods. My FASA paint jobs are main hull color sprayed from cans with acrylic detailing, basic but servicable! :)


demiurgex19 May 2016 2:20 p.m. PST

Yes, I second this. I'd be interested in the Planet Killer material he used.

Part time gamer19 May 2016 5:37 p.m. PST

I highly agree, *Adrew Lawton's work is truely amazing. I also would like to know how the "Doomsday Machine" was constructed. And ^5 on the starship to DD machine size ratio, it really seems to work well.
At times its hard to believe a 'human being' can achieve such detail. Your battle damaged Enterprise and unless Im mistaken, its a Miranda class (Relient) in that battle are great. But..

My own paint jobs are as basic as one can get. Like *Trynda1701, the Federation are sprayed white w/some 'absoulute' basic detailing. Sadly the hands arent steady enough to do the straight lines on the engines and main hull.

I have also created my own light cruiser, the "Goddess" class. Using one of Zocchi's plastic tugs, I left off the cargo section, file down the connecting point and inserted a cross section between the nacelles.. Im rethinking that design, the 'cross section' may have to be moved more forward.

If I had a 'buck' for every time I wished Zocchi had done even a couple the Klingon ships in his hard plastic.. we'd all be rich!

el flesh14 Jul 2016 7:18 a.m. PST

Hey Darkrazor, I'm looking for some FASA ships in resin.

Eclipsing Binaries16 Aug 2016 11:52 a.m. PST

Hi, I have a small collection of TOS era Trek ships I'm working on, mostly the ADB Starline 2400 Federation and Klingons, with a couple of FASA ships and Micromachine ships added in.

I've seen the Irregular ships that look okay, and I've ordered a couple of small Federation ships from Shapeways to see how they look, but what else is currently available for this era of Trek at the same scales?

And Darkrazor, do you still have Zocchis?

stumer19 Aug 2016 6:50 a.m. PST

There are also the 1:3125 scale Federation ships that I made available to Axanar donors in their store, based upon the ships used in the trailer 'Prelude to Axanar.' These were made to the same scale as ADB's 2400 line so they would be compatible. If you can donate, you can get all of them in their store.


Darkrazor Supporting Member of TMP19 Aug 2016 10:28 a.m. PST


I do still have Zocchi's as many as you will ever need

Eclipsing Binaries20 Aug 2016 9:26 a.m. PST

Thanks guys.

Darkrazor, can you email me at ? I'm UK based.

Stumer, I'll make a donation and have a look.

And my shapeways delivery arrived with two great little models. A little bit rough textured but perfect otherwise.

Dominator227805 Sep 2018 12:04 a.m. PST

Hi all,

Darkrazer is it to late to get with you on some ships?

stumer05 Sep 2018 5:20 a.m. PST

I have the ships in my store now, for those that missed out, and I now offer them in the same scale that FASA did in 1:3788 as well as the 1:3125 scale as well here:


Sing-Ons here:

Woomera Shipyards designs will also fit the bill as well:

More is planned in the future as well!


Dominator227805 Sep 2018 11:16 a.m. PST

Hey Drew, thanks for all the great links!
I think I'll be picking up a few.
Do you know of any sites that have any more fast designs or ships in 1/3900 scale? Everything I saw in the links was at 1/3788 which I think is the battles scale.

stumer05 Sep 2018 1:25 p.m. PST

Sorry, Between 1:3788 and 1:3900 they are practically interchangeable (let's not split hairs over the finite difference.)

ADB Marketing05 Sep 2018 1:38 p.m. PST

We have a good number of Star Fleet ships in either 1:3788 scale or 1:3125 scale. That includes the ships that Franz Joseph designed. (Yes, his daughter does get paid when we sell them). The Franz Joseph ships should be the same as the Zocchi ships.

DrTachyon06 Sep 2018 7:17 a.m. PST

"More is planned in the future as well!

Drew, you tease. ;-)

Dominator227822 Sep 2018 8:08 p.m. PST

Thanks Drew, Picked up some burgstroms! Just waiting for them
To arrive. I dig the site, but I'm still looking for more fasa designs or any TMP era ships. Looking for resin or metal. Not really fond of shapeways 3D material. Anyone got any leads? Checked eBay and all that's listed are mint in box fasa ships for 40 to 60 bucks. Not sure if that's the crazy price or the going rates but I'm not grabbing them at that price.

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