Darwin Green | 29 Oct 2014 9:19 a.m. PST |
I spent an half an hour assembling a Tomahawk because it has so many fiddly bits. The Hip joints really have me scared since it's a tiny, tiny ball and socket joint. I can kind of see this from a scale model, but for wargames, they're a little too delicate for me. I'm dreading now having to assemble my wing of Valkyries. |
Usrivoy3 | 29 Oct 2014 10:20 a.m. PST |
They are tiny aren't they. The pictures make them seem deceptively large. I've put together at least on of every unit. I've been using Testors Liquid Cement to glue them together. It works really well and I would recommend it. Once they've sat overnight they are solid and don't seem to be very delicate. I've dropped each of them at least once thanks to non working fingers…… |
Darwin Green | 29 Oct 2014 10:31 a.m. PST |
I've been using the gel. I don't know, the hip joints on the tomahawks really worries me. I dripped in some superglue into the cracks hoping for some extra hold. Also I'm going to have to get some extra snips since my current ones are a little on the big side. |
darthfozzywig | 29 Oct 2014 10:36 a.m. PST |
When I saw the first "exploded" view of a Destroid with a billion tiny parts, it saved me from otherwise a $500 USD KS buy-in. I've been wanting Robotech minis since I saw some of the Dark Horse ones back in the 80s, but this just wasn't the way forward for me. :( |
haywire | 29 Oct 2014 11:21 a.m. PST |
I have not gotten mine yet, but I was surprised with the parts count. I was expecting something on scale with the Nichimo model kits with more simplifications. |
Darkest Star Games | 29 Oct 2014 11:23 a.m. PST |
Haven't gotten mine either. Envious of your problems! Lol! |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 29 Oct 2014 11:53 a.m. PST |
Multi-part miniatures allow for more detail and customability, but it comes at a 'price' in terms of time of assembly and fiddliness, especially for miniatures this small. |
Moonbeast | 29 Oct 2014 12:08 p.m. PST |
"Haven't gotten mine either. Envious of your problems! Lol!" Ditto. |
Lion in the Stars | 29 Oct 2014 12:32 p.m. PST |
While I'm sure some of the parts-count comes from pose-ability, the overwhelming majority of the parts count comes from the level of detail demanded by the license from Harmony Gold. HG complained greatly about the level of detail until it was explained that getting the level of detail demanded would double the number of parts and make the models unsuitably fiddly for gaming. Not to mention about double the cost of each model. I should be getting the first Wave of a monster order on Halloween… |
Karnophage | 29 Oct 2014 12:40 p.m. PST |
It is at a level of detail and size that only experienced modellers should really attempt to assemble them. It is not a real gamer friendly game because of the models. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 29 Oct 2014 12:51 p.m. PST |
It is at a level of detail and size that only experienced modellers should really attempt to assemble them. It is not a real gamer friendly game because of the models. I don't know about that, maybe an above average modeler who has the time can do it. But too bad this is a 'deal breaker' for some people. |
Tgunner | 29 Oct 2014 1:06 p.m. PST |
All I have to say is wow… I'm a gamer, not a model type. If I knew what I was getting into I would have gone for a smaller set. Heck, the starter set looks like a titantic amount of work! But man are these guys detailed! It's just amazing what they can do these days. I think I'm going to just plug at it and assemble a couple at a time. The introductory scenarios don't require more than a handful of mecha, so I'll build, play, build, play. Trying to assemble the whole hoard I have will probably kill me and drive off my wife. But man, my boy Jeremy… he's gonna explode when he sees this! |
Usrivoy3 | 29 Oct 2014 1:28 p.m. PST |
I'm a gamer too as opposed to a model type. But I'm actually having fun putting them together. I've come up with some "dynamic" poses I like. I've never used the Liquid Cement before as I just use superglue for what few models I've built. But I have to say its a god send in my opinion. As it says in the directions, put a dab on, let sit a few seconds, attach the part and hold for a few seconds and its bonded enough to let go. You just have to be weary its melting the plastic, so you have to account for the bonding area may twist or move. |
McWong73 | 29 Oct 2014 4:50 p.m. PST |
I'm both a gamer and a modeller, and I'm not looking forward to this…and I backed at Reckless level so I've got ten years of assembly to look forward to. |
Chortle | 29 Oct 2014 5:39 p.m. PST |
They were very wise to do this as a kickstarter. People ordered without thinking of the work involved in putting the models together. |
ordinarybass | 29 Oct 2014 7:19 p.m. PST |
I took a look at my buddy's sprues. Amazing models, but yeah, alot of bits. As others have said, a watery liquid solvent cement, with brush applicator if you can find, it would be key to assembling these with any kind of speed. I've always liked Plastruct "Plastic Weld", but there are other brands. |
haywire | 30 Oct 2014 5:02 a.m. PST |
So the parts count has been such an ongoing discussion that I am starting to think that if I do not think it is so bad, I may be able to make some serious bank on building and painting them for people. |
Capt Flash | 30 Oct 2014 6:09 a.m. PST |
+1 for Plastruct Plastic Weld. It's the one product that got me into plastic figures so deeply. I was a "Metal Elitist" preferring gamer before that. |
Chortle | 30 Oct 2014 6:38 a.m. PST |
So the parts count has been such an ongoing discussion that I am starting to think that if I do not think it is so bad, I may be able to make some serious bank on building and painting them for people. A few people will love Robotech and have deep pockets. Most will just slowly plug away at their plastic pile or leave it for future generations. |
kenohhkc | 30 Oct 2014 12:22 p.m. PST |
so glad I didnt pull the trigger on this one. |
Lion in the Stars | 30 Oct 2014 7:32 p.m. PST |
They were very wise to do this as a kickstarter. People ordered without thinking of the work involved in putting the models together. I resemble that remark, and my first box of doom(tm) is supposed to arrive tomorrow. |
Morpheus1975 | 31 Oct 2014 6:09 a.m. PST |
They also marketed to both the modeling and mini community and both sides made assumptions. Then were unhappy with what we got that is in many ways a mix of the two. |
Judge Doug | 31 Oct 2014 6:56 a.m. PST |
I'm kicking myself for not buying more. I did Battlecry plus only two add-ons. It's definitely a challenge assembling the first few models but after that they are a breeze. There's a lot of parts but many of those parts you won't use (there's so many different arm poses it's ridiculous, and tons of missile types for the Valkyries, etc) If you ever assembled 1/72 tanks then these models will be very easy. If you ever assembled 1/72 tanks with individual track links these models will be a walk in the park. That being said if anyone has extra models I would like to get some more destroids and I'm willing to pay $5 USD each for them. |
DGT123 | 31 Oct 2014 7:13 a.m. PST |
They are small but once you get the first few done I think they go quick. I assemble a sprue at a time so while on part is drying move on to the other. I use testors model cement, plastic weld where there are gaps and super glue for some tough places like the tomahawk legs. I do think the detail is good but if your not a modeler I could see where there would be a learning curve. Don't let it overwhelm you just do a few at a time. |
Judge Doug | 31 Oct 2014 7:18 a.m. PST |
@DGT123 I found that doing a few at a time and making a pile of parts, like, torso pile, right arm pile, left arm pile, etc, works best for me. That way I have all the different leg and arm variants ready for me to dryfit. I have to admit I really enjoy making fun poses on these models. |
DGT123 | 31 Oct 2014 8:40 a.m. PST |
Judge Doug I agree it has been really enjoyable trying the different poses, that's where the plastics make it easier to mod. I do cut the entire sprue off and keep them in little ziplock bags then assemble them. You have to do what works best for you! |