 Der Alte Fritz  | 23 Oct 2014 9:56 a.m. PST |
Does anyone have access to any decent pictures or drawings of the detail on the barrels of the Russian cannon circa the SYW? I'm assuming that the sovereign's royal cypher might be cast onto the barrel, but the pictures that I've seen show other details as well. I've looked at the photos from the Russian Artillery Museum in St. Petersburg and they dont show the barrels in sufficient detail so please don't link me to that source. Any other drawings or details would be greatly appreciated. Fritz |
Frederick  | 23 Oct 2014 10:30 a.m. PST |
Don't know about the SYW but there is a captured Russian cannon from the Crimean War in our local park – it has a double-headed eagle |
| Altefritz | 23 Oct 2014 1:17 p.m. PST |
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| noggin2nog | 24 Oct 2014 12:54 p.m. PST |
I have photos of the Shuvalov howitzer in the artillery museum in St Petersburg, that I took whilst on holiday, but I'm not sure how to post them here. I can email them to you if you wish. Dean |
| noggin2nog | 24 Oct 2014 1:24 p.m. PST |
I hope this has worked: link Dean |
| crogge1757 | 24 Oct 2014 2:37 p.m. PST |
Great images Dean.
The barrel should be a good guide-line. I'm no expert on Russian Ordnance.
Haven't done much research yet.
Your photographed piece would suit the period, to my understanding. The carriages weren't so different from the Prussian ones. Both featured these specific bow shaped iron sheets to support the axle tree. The Russian version being even more curled. Note the massive odd wedge with the second image. That's interesting. Just a single raw triangle block with a handle. It is realy a cut out from the bracket cheeks before they got cut in two – i.e it has the width double the width of the bracket cheek. Jim,
Did you contact Stephen Summerfield yet? He should have some more details to add. Cheers,
Christian
crogges7ywarmies.blogspot.com |
| noggin2nog | 24 Oct 2014 3:05 p.m. PST |
Christian,
I have added further images of the Shuvalov howitzer. The piece shown was produced in 1753 – there is an information plate in one of the photos with measurements, etc, but unfortunately the text is in Russian and would need translating.
I have also added a couple of images of an 1805 12pdr in the same museum, showing the apple green colour of the Russian carriages during the Napoleonic period as a contrast to the red of the SYW period. Dean |
| summerfield | 31 Oct 2014 5:25 a.m. PST |
Nobody has contacted me about Russian Ordnance.
Stephen |
| Barin1 | 05 Nov 2014 11:33 a.m. PST |
Guess I have some pics for you…Shuvalov's howitzers were called "unicorns", so..
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| crogge1757 | 05 Nov 2014 2:59 p.m. PST |
Attention! Shuvalov howitzers with its distinctive oval bore are one type of ordnance, while the Unicorns form another type of ordnance. They did not have an oval bore, but the ordinary round bore. Do not confuse the two types. I just purchased 2 models of the Shuvalov secret howitzer from Foundry Miniatures of their 28 mm range in Antwerp last weekend. They look rather nice. Well sculptured. Not sure whether they are dead on authentic, but they should be pretty close to just perfect. They look VERY Russian. |
| Barin1 | 06 Nov 2014 12:11 a.m. PST |
Not quite, Shuvalov's factories were producing both "unicorn" howitzers and "secret" howitzers with oval bore. Unicorn was his family crest, so both types of howitzers had them on the barrels. You're right, that "unicorn" was a "common name" for a whole list of artillery, and "secret" howitzers became known under SHuvalov;s name during 7YW. |
| crogge1757 | 06 Nov 2014 4:15 p.m. PST |
That's interesting. Thanks Barin1.
I wasn't aware of this detail. |
| summerfield | 12 Nov 2014 3:48 a.m. PST |
Dear Barin
Thank you. Very interesting.
Stephen |
| Tricorne1971 | 29 Nov 2014 9:59 a.m. PST |
I bought several beautiful 30mm (28mm) Russian artillery models at the Kulmbach show a few years ago. They were made by a Russian company, have incredible accurate detail and real brass gun tubes (with unicorns). Maybe Christian can help with the name of the company. I will try to find it. Look at the plates in Zweguintzow,W L'armee russe 1700-1762 for artillery drawings. The 3pdr looks like a "galloper" with an extra two small mortars on the side of the frame. |
| Chokidar | 01 Dec 2014 3:21 a.m. PST |
Tricorne1971, the gentleman you are thinking of is Alexander Fingrut. He has a web-page – although nothing ever seems to happen there.
militaer-geschichte.de
Alas, the only way I have ever found of being able to contact him is indeed at Kulmbach where he inevitably turns up with these rather wonderful models and several metal boxes stuffed with books, magazines and other treasures. Hope this helps C. |
| Tricorne1971 | 03 Dec 2014 1:56 p.m. PST |
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