| Cacique Caribe | 22 Oct 2014 1:03 p.m. PST |
I don't understand what the dollhouse aficionados mean when they talk about 1:12 and yet show you something this tiny: link Yet that looks like it could be 1/72, 1/87 or even 1/100 (15mm) to me:
Can anyone explain what they mean please, but in language wargamers can understand? Thanks, Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 22 Oct 2014 1:10 p.m. PST |
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 Extra Crispy  | 22 Oct 2014 1:13 p.m. PST |
From Wikipedia: The most common standard for adult collectors is 1:12 scale, also called 1" or one inch scale (where 1 foot is represented by 1 inch.) Among adult collectors there are also smaller scales which are much more common in the United States than in Britain. 1:24 or half inch scale (1 foot is 1/2") was popular in Marx dollhouses in the 1950s but only became widely available in collectible houses after 2002, about the same time that even smaller scales became more popular, like 1:48 or quarter inch scale (1 foot is 1/4") and 1:144 or "dollhouse for a dollhouse" scale.
I'm guessing that image is just mislabeled? |
| Extra Crispy | 22 Oct 2014 1:15 p.m. PST |
If that's HG Wells' time machine, I'm guessing it ought to be, what, 8' deep (the base I mean)? So if about 3/4" = 8 feet I think that's close to 1/144. |
| haywire | 22 Oct 2014 1:16 p.m. PST |
Its a scale model of the "scale model"… So 1:12 of what the scale model would be… If that also 1:12? so it would be 1/144 scale… or about 12mm EDIT: Extra Crispy beat me. |
| Cacique Caribe | 22 Oct 2014 1:19 p.m. PST |
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| haywire | 22 Oct 2014 1:21 p.m. PST |
That one is actually 1/6th scale. Whereas this one is "unscaled" because it is of the smaller scale one.
link Like they can't confuse you enough with their wording! The problem is, is it of this scale model
Or this full sized model
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 Sue Kes  | 22 Oct 2014 2:01 p.m. PST |
I think haywire's right, I suspect it's intended to be on display as a "model" in a doll's house room setting. It's certainly not a miniature of the actual time machine – that would have to be big enough to seat a 6" doll. |
 etotheipi | 22 Oct 2014 2:53 p.m. PST |
Sue Kes is right. The text in the link says it is a scale model of the scale model the modeler recieved as a present. It's like putting 6mm figures on a table for your 28mm figures and treating them like dolls for the 28mm figures. Standard dollhouse scale is 1:12. The closest one to 28mm is "quarterscale", which is a quarter of the standard scale or 1:48. There really isn't one (or at least one I have seen) that is close to 15mm, which I believe is Cacqiue Caribe's favourite scale. There is, however, dollhouse-dollhouse scale, 1:144 which is 1:12 stuff at 1:12 scale or dolls scaled for your dolls. |
 StoneMtnMinis | 22 Oct 2014 3:36 p.m. PST |
I don't care about the scale I just want one! |
| Lion in the Stars | 22 Oct 2014 6:13 p.m. PST |
There really isn't one (or at least one I have seen) that is close to 15mm, which I believe is Cacqiue Caribe's favourite scale Not a dollhouse scale, but there is a naval modeling scale of 1/8"=1 foot. Works out to 1/96 scale. |
| 53Punisher | 22 Oct 2014 10:04 p.m. PST |
I always use my own scale: If it fits = I use it Works every time. :) |
| Trojan Points | 22 Oct 2014 10:41 p.m. PST |
Speaking of time machines, can someone please go back in time and force, at gun point if necessary, every wargame miniatures maker, model maker, doll house maker and train model maker to use a limited set of standardized (across those media) scales? Would I be so bold as to suggest metric ones instead of the whole measuring stuff with ones body parts business? |
| chironex | 22 Oct 2014 10:49 p.m. PST |
Can't say I've ever seen the latter done in Imperial units. |
| Trojan Points | 22 Oct 2014 11:17 p.m. PST |
OK, metric and and relatively "rounded" scale? Like suggesting them (at gun point, remember) to replace the whole 1/12, HO, 15mm, heroic 37mm and dollhouse-dollhouse (really? shouldn't we wargamers invent something like "28mm-28mm" to stay ahead in the hermetic jargon race?) by something like 1/2, 1/5, 1/10, 1/20,1/50, 1/100, 1/200, 1/500 and so on? Standardization and easy conversion? But anything standardized across the board would do! And of course have every country write harsh penalties (lapidation with overscaled miniatures?) for manufacturers doing the it's-not-scale-creep-it's-an-heroic-version-of-the-scale thing into their constitutions? |
| Trojan Points | 22 Oct 2014 11:19 p.m. PST |
It is a very rhetorical suggestion. I won't do it for real. |
| chironex | 22 Oct 2014 11:28 p.m. PST |
"- 1/50 instead of 28mm, O-scale and 1/48…
- 1/100 instead of 15mm, HO, 1/96…" I think everyone's happy mixing up those scales. It increases the amount of not-perfectly-the-right-scale items one can use. Though saying scale instead of size range does seem a bit stupid, in light of Mad Robot's declaration that the "scale" of a figure is just a saying. |
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