"Two More Sightings in Swedish Waters" Topic

Appears that the underwater vessel(s) may still be operating in Swedish waters:

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On the plus side, looks like Sweden will be beefing up its military, due to recent events.

hmm, I wonder what ACTIVE SONAR and depth charges would turn up?

I was wondering the same thing.

I also wonder if they still have any DCs, given that they've apparently written/sold off all of their ASW helos.

Seems a shame, since they worked quite well back in the early 1980s.

Heck, even a few hand grenades tossed in the water might rattle a mini-sub crew. Sound travels extremely well, and quickly, underwater.

It'd be really funny, I mean embarrassing, if it really turned out it was one of ours (US).

Dan

CC I supect our crews might not be detected

I wonder if they speak Russian?

It would make any wargaming test a bit more confusing, if so, and that is the point of the exercise.

Oh please chaps, more like Loch Ness Monsterski.
Spotted 3 times on 3 days no ways would anyone be so obvious even the Russkies, unless they want to be seen and the 'dark man character' seen in the location nearby just makes it all laughable and brings this conspiracy to hysterical heights of fantasy.
Then again I've been wrong before (see Area 51, 52 and 53 :)
Cheers and happy goat staring all.

"CC I supect our crews might not be detected"

What if something had malfunctioned?

Not that I really believe it was one of ours. Just playing Devil's advocate.

Dan

Apparently, there was an emergency distress signal in Russian, in the area, so………

Then again, perhaps the Spetznatz just made that up, in order to see Sweden's current military response capabilities.

What the Swedish navy said was that they originally heard a distress call in Russian, transmitted in the clear, though fragmentary. That alerted them sufficiently to allocate some sigint resources to it and they heard a second transmission – this time ecrypted – with a reply, also encrypted. RDF identified the transmitter as being somewhere in the Stockholm Isthmus and the reply as originating in Kaliningrad.

I'll just leave it here….

<<The cloak-and-dagger excitement of the current submarine chase has seen Sweden's media seize on scraps of information from the armed forces and public. Newspapers have hired helicopters to follow the search from the air. More than 100 sightings of "suspicious objects" have been reported.

The hype receded briefly after a "mysterious man in black", allegedly sought by the secret services as a possible Russian special forces agent, turned out to be a pensioner called Ove who was doing a spot of angling. A photo of a submarine turned out to be of a Swedish one. A popular freesheet led its front page on Tuesday with remarks by a former commander-in-chief of the armed forces that there was no chance of finding a submarine: "We looked for 10 years and didn't find one," he told the paper.

Conspiracy theories are rife, given that the new minority government of Social Democrats and Greens presents its first budget . Already the new finance minister has pledged more money for Sweden's military, apparently in response to the submarine panic, even though the Green party campaigned on defence cuts.>>

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"One tiny submarine has got the entire Swedish navy tied up, all 200 sailors, with neither the resources nor the weapons to deal with it…"

It's a big sea, and that's not a lot of men…

The probability of there having been Russian submarines somewhere along the Swedish coast is moderate. After all, as others have pointed out, that is part of the game and we all do it.

The probability of actually finding it (especially with only 200 men) is pretty remote.

Actually both the Navy in the shape of Admiral Grenstad and the armed forces spokesman Lagersten have strongly denied the News story about an intercepted radio transmission.

Neither is the entire Navy involved, 3 corvettes of the 9 which are in service as well as some support ships have been involved together with a large number of boats belonging to the Amphibious regiment. The 200 men reported actually refered to the ground forces involved and only includes the intial response force.

It should be noted that the Navy has been very carefull not to call this a subhunt and the forces deployed have acted in manner that is diffrent from moster cold war incidents. Rather like they were expecting to encounter ground troops than looken for a conventional submarine.

The Swedes have modern corvettes with an anti-submarine role – I think the issue is an area with 30,000 islands and rocks making it a nightmare for detection.

Ha ha always on pulse Barin, knew it was newsworthy junk, not! :) I love how these reporters make it all out of ether.
Cheers see ya at the window.

I thought in the in the eighties there was credible evidence of crawler tracks on the Swedish seabed.