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Chortle Fezian20 Oct 2014 9:54 a.m. PST

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Nutty stuff. An article suggests that a former Major General is plotting an establishment sanctioned military coup. The Satanist comes in as the co-author on the Generals major work "From Psyop To Mind War".

Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, who has been skulking around my neck of the woods in Montana, attempting to sell his version of the final liberty "solution" to the large community of patriots in the region. Vallely's answer to the problem appears to be an extension of the Operation American Spring project, which he has been promoting every year for as long as I can remember and has been relabeled over and over, and which has failed every year to produce the million-man armed march on Washington, D.C., that it calls for. The strategy has now evolved into what essentially amounts to a military coup led by neoconservative brass.

Before Vallely settled in Montana to become a "freedom fighter" he was most famous for co-authoring a Department of Defense white paper called "From Psyop To Mind War," published in 1980.

The other author of "From Psyop To Mind War" is a man by the name of Michael Aquino, who has a foggy career history beyond his status as a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. military and allegedly an employee of the NSA. What is not a mystery is Aquino's religious orientation. The man is an open Satanist, a former member of the Church of Satan, and a current member of his own Temple of Set.

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From PSYOP to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory. MindWar is defined as "the deliberate aggressive convincing of all participants in a war that we will win that war."

That sounds pretty interesting.

John the OFM20 Oct 2014 10:46 a.m. PST

Where is Smedley Butler when we need him?

They will never get the Air Force. It's full of evangelical Christians.

John the OFM20 Oct 2014 10:48 a.m. PST

Chortle, your problem is that you believe that "if it's on the Internet it has to be true."

Flecktarn20 Oct 2014 10:56 a.m. PST

Chortle,

Please do yourself a favour and stop making yourself look like an idiot.

Jurgen

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse20 Oct 2014 10:58 a.m. PST

Have to agree with John … Chortle, the US has a lot of problems … but a Satanic Military or any other type coup it not one of them …

VonTed20 Oct 2014 11:22 a.m. PST

Some how, not sure how yet…. but I blame Tango

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Oct 2014 12:19 p.m. PST
cosmicbank20 Oct 2014 12:42 p.m. PST

Staging a coup is one thing keeping power is the other, I remember the reptillian coup of 1975, now that was a busy weekend.

Rod I Robertson20 Oct 2014 1:10 p.m. PST

John the OFM is right! It's 1933 all over again but with a satanic twist added to the cocktail of Fascism and Big Business. "Plus ca change, plus ca reste la meme." Major- General Smedley Darlington Butler was a great American patriot who almost no Americans seem to know anything about. Now I wonder if the Browns, Duponts, Barrimans, etc. are behind this one? Or is it just Satan?
However JOFM, be careful with your predictions about the Air Force, for Lucifer was the fairest of all the angels and a deceiver to boot!
Cheers.
Rod Robertson

Striker20 Oct 2014 1:40 p.m. PST

Uh, have we forgotten about the Greys? Last time I checked they weren't allowing anyone to take over.

jpattern220 Oct 2014 1:40 p.m. PST

The US military got 99 problems, but a witch ain't one of them.

jpattern220 Oct 2014 1:41 p.m. PST

And Vallely's a birther. Does anything else need to be said?

Winston Smith20 Oct 2014 1:45 p.m. PST

It enhances his credibility for one thing!

zippyfusenet20 Oct 2014 1:50 p.m. PST

I love the photo of Paul Wolfowitz. Chortle, this is why I like you.

ordinarybass20 Oct 2014 1:54 p.m. PST

Chortle, are you a birther?
That, plus your two most recent topics I've read (this and the Jewish ISIS post) would be more than enough to make you my second ever "Ignored" TMP user!

cosmicbank20 Oct 2014 1:54 p.m. PST

Striker who do you think stopped the reps?

MH Dee20 Oct 2014 2:22 p.m. PST

Can you game the paranoid fantasies of the far-right? Would you want to?

John the OFM20 Oct 2014 3:49 p.m. PST

Can you game the paranoid fantasies of the far-left? Would you want to?

Oh, I'm sorry. The left has no fantasies. Everything they believe is gospel truth.
"Objective reality" and all that. grin

Weasel20 Oct 2014 4:28 p.m. PST

OFM – You can, it's called 1945 WW2 ;)

Also.. .satanist panic in 2014? What's next? You're coming for my D&D books?

darthfozzywig20 Oct 2014 4:29 p.m. PST

LOL jpattern. :D

cosmicbank20 Oct 2014 4:59 p.m. PST

Why not game both sides of wack o ness, multiplayer game control the sheepeople and launch coup when ready.

Flatland Hillbilly20 Oct 2014 5:14 p.m. PST

They will never get past the Reptilian aliens in the underground base in Dulce, NM

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2014 5:42 p.m. PST

Wackiness is spread all over. Gen Weasly Clark made the comment when he was running for president as a Democrat that the US was built on the concept of progressive taxation. Since a West Point graduate doesn't know the difference between the Constitution and the Communist Manifesto I think its safe to fear both sides extreamists.

jpattern220 Oct 2014 5:43 p.m. PST

The US military got 99 problems, but a witch ain't one of them.
oh and by the by Witches are not Satanist They tend to be Wiccans as my late wife was.
This witch was a Wiccan who converted to Satanism for the purposes of the song parody, then converted right back.

Weasel20 Oct 2014 6:06 p.m. PST

We're not actually suggesting that progressive taxation is communism, right?

I mean, that'd be pretty silly.

Winston Smith20 Oct 2014 6:43 p.m. PST

We're not actually suggesting that progressive taxation is communism, right?

Well of course it is. Geez Louise…

Chortle Fezian20 Oct 2014 6:55 p.m. PST

I don't agree with the article. I just post it as a funny article of interest. When it comes to gaming military coups in the USA, I think it is more palatable to game out a crazy one. This is a good scenario for that. People hit the panic button when a game is too close to reality.

I haven't read the General's paper. From the tag line it does sound legitimate and interesting.

"From PSYOP to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory. MindWar is defined as "the deliberate aggressive convincing of all participants in a war that we will win that war.""

And Vallely's a birther. Does anything else need to be said?

Is he really a birther or does he espouse a cross section of right wing views only to form an organisation to take names of people who the government considers dangerous? You shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. That article was suggesting that the General, given his extensive connections with the NSA, works for the government.

Also.. .satanist panic in 2014? What's next? You're coming for my D&D books?
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Coelacanth193820 Oct 2014 8:23 p.m. PST

Who needs Satanists when you have Libertarians?

Seriously, I ran an occult bookstore for a number of years and I met Anton LeVey a number of times. He openly copped to the fact that Satanism was just Ayn Rand in Goth makeup. And for a Satanist, he was a rather friendly man if you didn't act like a jerk. To paraphrase a friend of mine, Anton LaVey was a 'thumb in the eye' to remind Christians that they were in a fight for spiritual authenticity.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Oct 2014 8:44 p.m. PST

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I wish my DM had looked like that!

If this line of thought interests you, you might enjoy this novel (which I did not): TMP link

I would hope that a military coup in the US is unlikely. But as a sci-fi scenario in a crazy dystopian future, it could be a lot of fun.

B6GOBOS21 Oct 2014 5:59 a.m. PST

what is this foolishness. The article is from a survivalist/preppers web site. Then you publish pictures from jack chick graphic novels that equate playing D and D with Satanism (oh and reading Harry Potter does the same thing). But I guess it is alright since you say I do not agree with this but… then good folks here on TMP call them out on it but they get locked accounts or there text deleated. But chortle goes his happymerry way spread this garbage? Bill you are causing and encouraging ths nonesense. And then using it to get rid of people who disagree withyourpolitics . No wonder people laugh at this site.

MH Dee21 Oct 2014 8:59 a.m. PST

'Can you game the paranoid fantasies of the far-left? Would you want to?

Oh, I'm sorry. The left has no fantasies. Everything they believe is gospel truth.
"Objective reality" and all that. grin'

What's that got to do with anything? the thing is, this site is becoming basically the Stormfront of the gaming world – I've no idea why this is happening, as I've lurked here for years and have never seen this degree of extremist beliefs being pushed as gaming 'source material' before. There was just a recent anti-semitic thread, and now it's Satanists under the bed alongside.

If you look at what's happening regarding sexism and abuse in the whole Gamergate# thing, imagine it when this site gets noticed for being host to extremist anti-semitic fantasies.

I expect to see the Protocols of the Elders of Zion being linked to as legitimate gaming-friendly material soon.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse21 Oct 2014 10:03 a.m. PST

Now … if we could only get Satanists worldwide to hate the fanatical islamists enough to go on a 21st Century version of the Inquistition in reverse. Of course the islamists already hate Satanists … and every one else it appears. So we're half way there … Satanists vs. islamists … could be a win-win ?

Chortle Fezian21 Oct 2014 10:11 a.m. PST

PC games are a billion dollar industry. Activists/Lobbyists can make money inserting themselves there . There isn't such an incentive to make capital over here.

"I expect to see the Protocols of the Elders of Zion being linked to as legitimate gaming-friendly material soon."

That would work more for RPG.

Cacique Caribe21 Oct 2014 2:28 p.m. PST

I'm not a birther. I believe BO was fabricated right here in the good ol' US of A.

As for his DNA …. Can't say.

Dan
PS. Just be careful what you guys post these days. Take it from me, it ends up in the weirdest of places.

BrianW21 Oct 2014 3:40 p.m. PST

Dan,
Now THAT sounds like an interesting story. Care to elaborate, perhaps in another thread?
BWW

Cacique Caribe21 Oct 2014 4:34 p.m. PST

Lets just say that our handles here and everywhere else are no guaranty of unanimity. So our online posts everywhere end up as part of background files, until someone chooses to use them.

If you had claimed such a thing two weeks ago, I would have thought you were crazy and paranoid.

Just – be – careful.

Dan

Weasel21 Oct 2014 7:19 p.m. PST

You should never assume you are anonymous. Anything you do online could be connected to you provided something has the time and resources.

Likewise, any device connected to the internet should be considered insecure and publicly accessible.

Cyrus the Great21 Oct 2014 10:11 p.m. PST

Secret Devil Sign! Oh, there's no emoticon for it.

Chortle Fezian21 Oct 2014 10:17 p.m. PST

@Weasel wrote

Anything you do online could be connected to you provided some-THING has the time and resources.
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Or

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Cyrus the Great21 Oct 2014 10:18 p.m. PST

Ah, here we go.

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BrianW22 Oct 2014 8:19 a.m. PST

Dan,
Anonymity on the Internet? Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.
BWW

Cacique Caribe22 Oct 2014 11:39 a.m. PST

Weasel: "You should never assume you are anonymous. Anything you do online could be connected to you provided something has the time and resources.
Likewise, any device connected to the internet should be considered insecure and publicly accessible."

Wise words everyone should live by.

Dan

Milites22 Oct 2014 2:45 p.m. PST

Electronic wallet-litter, and the ability to automatically scan and seek it out makes the word anonymous a bit of a joke.

Weasel, exactly what we were taught at a refresher course in child protection, post away, but realise it can/will be read or seen by someone.

Weasel23 Oct 2014 9:50 a.m. PST

Milites- indeed.

For most people, we're not important enough for anyone to put in the effort. THat should not be confused with security though.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.