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Tango0106 Oct 2014 10:29 p.m. PST

"When Cody Wilson revealed the world's first fully 3-D printed gun last year, he showed that the "maker" movement has enabled anyone to create a working, lethal firearm with a click in the privacy of his or her garage. Now he's moved on to a new form of digital DIY gunsmithing. And this time the results aren't made of plastic.

Wilson's latest radically libertarian project is a PC-connected milling machine he calls the Ghost Gunner. Like any computer-numerically-controlled (or CNC) mill, the one-foot-cubed black box uses a drill bit mounted on a head that moves in three dimensions to automatically carve digitally-modeled shapes into polymer, wood or aluminum. But this CNC mill, sold by Wilson's organization known as Defense Distributed for $1,200 USD, is designed to create one object in particular: the component of an AR-15 rifle known as its lower receiver…"
Full article here
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FoxtrotPapaRomeo06 Oct 2014 10:57 p.m. PST

Tango,

You encourage civilians to do this? This is insane, and not in a good way.

skippy000106 Oct 2014 10:59 p.m. PST

It's easier and cheaper to build a Sten. I found the manual and the blueprints on line.

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2014 11:00 p.m. PST

Tango,

You encourage civilians to do this? This is wonderful, in a good way.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

Tango0106 Oct 2014 11:37 p.m. PST

Well… only in the case of a Zombie Apoc… (smile)

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Armand

Wolfprophet07 Oct 2014 12:06 a.m. PST

Well, if you're really ambitious, go all out and make an AK. grin

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Ron W DuBray07 Oct 2014 4:44 a.m. PST

I made a over under shotgun using basic hand and auto shop tools.

tbeard199907 Oct 2014 5:11 a.m. PST

The gun grabbers' worst nightmare: an armed citizenry that can *easily* make its own firearms. As Ron shows, someone with sufficient know how can make firearms with relatively simple machine shop tools. But 3D mills don't require so much knowledge.

I just love disruptive technologies.

Dynaman878907 Oct 2014 5:27 a.m. PST

If you DON"T like the gun laws where you live then go out and campaign to get it changed. Making a gun at home in violation of the law is not the answer.

bsrlee07 Oct 2014 6:07 a.m. PST

More media scare mongering.

The AR15/M16/M4 lower receiver is a largely non structural part of the weapon – it holds the magazine and trigger group but you can't mount the barrel, bolt, gas group/tube or return spring. Even the upper receiver is pretty low stress, the locking lugs on the bolt engage the back of the barrel and you need real, good alloy steel for the parts and proper tooling.

About all you can build is a some of the parts for a paintball gun, and even then you will need additional steel parts.

Mardaddy07 Oct 2014 6:08 a.m. PST

From the article:

Selling that untraceable gun body is illegal, but no law prevents you from making one.

So… not a violation of the law, and no need to go out campaigning if you do not want, then.

Dynaman878907 Oct 2014 7:04 a.m. PST

In NJ making a gun without license is illegal. I would be very surprised if that was not the case in many other states as well. The article is, at best, incomplete and at worst purposely giving fraudulent legal counsel.

Col Durnford07 Oct 2014 10:44 a.m. PST

NJ – several years ago I saw a book listing the gun laws by state (fewer back then). The Jersey entry went on for 10 pages. It even contained a few paragraphs about regulations for owning a black power cannon.

Colorado had about 3 short paragraphs.

Psycho Rabbit07 Oct 2014 11:51 a.m. PST

I'd make a gun for everyone…:)

skippy000107 Oct 2014 11:54 a.m. PST

Don't forget, you can buy a crossbow, staple the guy with a gun to his garage door and then take HIS gun. All the pictures of partisans guerrillas used mostly captured weaponry. I severely doubt a 3d printed firearm would stand up to field use. The Pro/Con gun debaters forget this and we're also skirting Blue Fezz territory here.

ravachol07 Oct 2014 2:36 p.m. PST

as enstein pointed out some years ago … to get the gun from the guy skippy mentioned , you may do with some rock or improvised club …stone age weapons to get latest militaro-industrial toys in short troll

MechanicalHorizon07 Oct 2014 3:57 p.m. PST

In the USA whether or not making your own gun is legal would depend on the type of weapon you are making, this is from the ATF.gov website:

"With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a non-licensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms. However, a person is prohibited from assembling a non-sporting semi-automatic rifle or non-sporting shotgun from imported parts. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and approval by ATF. An application to make a machine gun will not be approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a Federal or State agency.
[18 U.S.C. 922(o) and (r), 26 U.S.C. 5822, 27 CFR 478.39, 479.62 and 479.105"

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse09 Oct 2014 2:11 p.m. PST

Don't have to make any "guns" in my home … I already own a number of them. And after spending 10+ years in the Infantry in my youth, I believe, I pretty much know how to use them … effectively …

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