"Daylamis" Topic
5 Posts
All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.
Please don't call someone a Nazi unless they really are a Nazi.
For more information, see the TMP FAQ.
Back to the Medieval Media Message Board Back to the Classical Asian Warfare Message Board Back to the Medieval Discussion Message Board
Areas of InterestAncients Medieval Renaissance
Featured Hobby News Article
Featured Link
Featured Ruleset
Featured Showcase ArticleThe last - the most elusive - set of dino skellies...
Featured Profile ArticleThe Editor heads for Vicksburg...
Featured Movie Review
|
The Membership System will be closing for maintenance in 12 minutes. Please finish anything that will involve the membership system, including membership changes or posting of messages.
Druzhina | 30 Sep 2014 5:45 a.m. PST |
There isn't a lot of information on the Daylamis from the Elburz mountains south of the Caspian Sea. To start with, here are extracts from a doctoral thesis 'The military technology of classical Islam', concerning Daylamis, by David Nicolle. plus the pictorial sources referred to including: Manuscript, 'Joshua' Rabula Gospels, 586 AD, north Syrian, Bib. Laur. Plut. 1, f.4r, Florence Fatimid Manuscript with two soldiers, 11th – 12th Centuries, Museum of Islamic Art, Cairo Paper fragment, 11th-12th centuries AD, Fatimid, Museum of Islamic Art no. 12801, Cairo Byzantine Plates – Herakleios, early 7th century, with scenes from the life of David, Metropolitan Museum, New York Manuscript from Mosul, Kitab al Diryak, mid-13th century AD, Nationalbibliothek, Ms. AF. 10, Vienna Manuscript, 13th century AD, Syriac Jazirah, Bib. Vat., Ms. Syr. 559, Rome Ceramic fragment, 10th-11th centuries AD, Fatimid, Victoria and Albert Museum, London Manuscript, Book of Fixed Stars, 1009 AD, western Iranian or Iraq, Bodleian Lib., Ms. Marsh 144, Oxford MIRROR SITES Daylamis in The military technology of classical Islam by David Nicolle Manuscript, 'Joshua' Rabula Gospels, 586 AD, north Syrian, Bib. Laur. Plut. 1, f.4r, Florence Fatimid Manuscript with two soldiers, 11th – 12th Centuries, Museum of Islamic Art, Cairo Paper fragment, 11th-12th centuries AD, Fatimid, Museum of Islamic Art no. 12801, Cairo Byzantine Plates – Herakleios, early 7th century, with scenes from the life of David, Metropolitan Museum, New York Manuscript from Mosul, Kitab al Diryak, mid-13th century AD, Nationalbibliothek, Ms. AF. 10, Vienna Manuscript, 13th century AD, Syriac Jazirah, Bib. Vat., Ms. Syr. 559, Rome Ceramic fragment, 10th-11th centuries AD, Fatimid, Victoria and Albert Museum, London Manuscript, Book of Fixed Stars, 1009 AD, western Iranian or Iraq, Bodleian Lib., Ms. Marsh 144, Oxford Druzhina Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers |
idontbelieveit | 30 Sep 2014 10:20 a.m. PST |
I get connection timeouts on the main and mirror sites using two different browsers? Anyone have better luck? |
goragrad | 30 Sep 2014 11:16 a.m. PST |
Working for me. P.S. Interesting sites. |
Druzhina | 01 Oct 2014 2:10 a.m. PST |
Here is another mirror site: Daylamis in The military technology of classical Islam by David Nicolle Contemporary descriptions of the zupin are usually translated as '2-bladed' or '2-pronged', that could be a pitch fork, or a spearhead with a waist as preferred by David Nicolle, or a spear with a head at each end as in a Daylami Tribesman by Ian Heath in Armies of the Dark Ages 600-1066 Possibilities include: Detail of top, Morgan Casket, Southern Italy, 11th-12th century Detail of front, Morgan Casket, Southern Italy, 11th-12th century Rear of ivory casket, Fatimid Sicily or Southern Italy, 11th-12th Centuries. Museum of Islamic Art at the Pergamon Museum, Berlin Daylami Infantryman, early 11th century by Angus McBride is based on: . 10th century plate excavated at Nishapur (anyone have a better picture?) . 'Book of Fixed Stars' (Kitab suwar al-kawakib al-tabita) by 'Abd al-Rahman ibn 'Umar al-Su-fi, 1009-10AD (Bodleian Library, Oxford, manuscript Marsh 144) See a summary of the written sources for Dailamis MIRROR SITES Daylami Tribesman by Ian Heath in Armies of the Dark Ages 600-1066 Morgan Casket, Southern Italy, 11th-12th century Rear of ivory casket, Fatimid Sicily or Southern Italy, 11th-12th Centuries. Museum of Islamic Art at the Pergamon Museum, Berlin Daylami Infantryman, early 11th century by Angus McBride 10th century plate excavated at Nishapur 'Book of Fixed Stars' (Kitab suwar al-kawakib al-tabita) by 'Abd al-Rahman ibn 'Umar al-Su-fi, 1009-10AD (Bodleian Library, Oxford, manuscript Marsh 144) Druzhina 11th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers |
Druzhina | 02 Oct 2014 3:05 a.m. PST |
A probable Daylami Fatimid Caliphal guard, early 11th century, by Angus McBride based on Fatimid Ivory Plaque of Two Soldiers, 10th century, Louvre, Ceramic fragment, 10th-11th centuries AD, Fatimid, Victoria and Albert Museum, London, Fatimid Manuscript with two soldiers from Fustat, 11th – 12th Centuries, Museum of Islamic Art, Cairo (in at least 4 other books David Nicolle identifies this as an Arab or Berber) and an unknown painted paper fragment from Fustat, Louvre, Paris. (any ideas?) Although one of the main features of this figure is the carrying of 2 javelins, none of the sources I have found have 2 javelins. The 4th source may be Paper fragment, 11th-12th centuries AD, Fatimid, Museum of Islamic Art no. 12801, Cairo (if which museum is mistaken) which has 2 javelins. MIRROR SITES Daylami Fatimid Caliphal guard, early 11th century, by Angus McBride Fatimid Ivory Plaque of Two Soldiers, 10th century, Louvre Druzhina 10th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers |
|