"“A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties”" Topic

The Yinon plan is an oldie, but I guess many haven't seen it.

The Association of Arab-American University Graduates finds it compelling to inaugurate its new publication series, Special Documents, with Oded Yinon's article which appeared in Kivunim (Directions), the journal of the Department of Information of the World Zionist Organization. Oded Yinon is an Israeli journalist and was formerly attached to the Foreign Ministry of Israel. To our knowledge, this document is the most explicit, detailed and unambiguous statement to date of the Zionist strategy in the Middle East. Furthermore, it stands as an accurate representation of the "vision" for the entire Middle East of the presently ruling Zionist regime of Begin, Sharon and Eitan. Its importance, hence, lies not in its historical value but in the nightmare which it presents.

The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state. Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its source of moral legitimation.

This is not a new idea, nor does it surface for the first time in Zionist strategic thinking. Indeed, fragmenting all Arab states into smaller units has been a recurrent theme. This theme has been documented on a very modest scale in the AAUG publication, Israel's Sacred Terrorism (1980), by Livia Rokach. Based on the memoirs of Moshe Sharett, former Prime Minister of Israel, Rokach's study documents, in convincing detail, the Zionist plan as it applies to Lebanon and as it was prepared in the mid-fifties.

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Got any more anti-Israel crap to peddle?

You will find plenty on Haaretz, JTA, the Times of Israel and other Israeli news sites.

There is a foreword by Israel Shakak on the link I posted:

"The following essay represents, in my opinion, the accurate and detailed plan of the present Zionist regime (of Sharon and Eitan) for the Middle East which is based on the division of the whole area into small states"

Annnnnd once again, exactly WHAT has this to do with toy soldiers?????????????

Lord, am I the only voice left here, that shall speak for the little lead men?

While I am very unhappy with Israel's politicians right now (and I'm sure they're reading TMP to assess my dissatisfaction,) I don't know if referring to their government as a 'Zionist Regime' is particularly helpful.

Accurate though in a political sense.

"Annnnnd once again, exactly WHAT has this to do with toy soldiers?????????????"

TMP has Modern sub forums for gallery, painting guides, media, scenarios, "what-if".

This is the 1946-2004 discussion board which includes the period of the Lebanon war, Gulf war, etc. The Yinon article article was penned in 1982 and relates to Israeli strategic planning.

Israel Shahak:
"The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, occurs again and again in Israeli strategic thinking. For example, Ze'ev Schiff, the military correspondent of Ha'aretz (and probably the most knowledgeable in Israel, on this topic) writes about the "best" that can happen for Israeli interests in Iraq: "The dissolution of Iraq into a Shi'ite state, a Sunni state and the separation of the Kurdish part" (Ha'aretz 6/2/1982). Actually, this aspect of the plan is very old."

The Yinon article is very handy as a list of the different factions in given countries in the region of Israel.

The article is anti-Israel in its tone and expression. It's by no means a dispassionate analysis. Your posting violates the letter and spirit if the rules governing the forums. You should post it on a National Front or UKIP forum where you'll find your fellow travelers. Not here.

Not everyone in Israel agrees with an aggressive policy towards neighbors. A foreword to that article is written by Israel Shahak, who campaigned for peace until he died suddenly in Israel.

Calling someone a racist or anti-semite is a trick to shut down debate so that inconvenient points are not evaluated.

I have to agree this is at least Political if not pure propaganda. I'm not a fan Of Israel since I learned they passed on intelligence to the Chinese. But If I was Israel and had been born surrounded by hostile neighbors that had engaged me in open warfare off and on my entire existence.
There would prob be a ton of sanctioned bizarre papers floating around on how to maintain any advantage I could over my enemies. This has no place in wargaming,Unless you include some sort of SOF scenarios that have a cause an effect to facilitate this so called strategy..

nothing wrong with being anti israel; there have been plenty of anti iran/china/venezuela/wherever posts around here.
Agree this isnt directly game related but its interesting in putting israels reaction to the recent hamas/fatah unity government into perspective.

Wow.

"Agree this isnt directly game related but its interesting in putting israels reaction to the recent hamas/fatah unity government into perspective."

Those articles I linked are from 1982 (Yinon plan), 1980 (Israel's Sacred Terrorism) and reference earlier work going back to before the foundation of Israel. They discuss a deliberate Israeli policy of breaking up neighboring states. It is OK to discuss politics of events over 10 years ago on TMP.

"I have to agree this is at least Political if not pure propaganda."

When the CIA encountered damning VC-I documents in Vietnam they publicized them. That was also propaganda. I haven't studies it, but I guess the VC-I did the same. Your enemies are a good source of material your own side want to keep quiet. How else would we learn about this? I think it was the film Network News where the anchor kept repeating the line "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" in reference to Arabs taking over the media. That is very far from the truth.

In the United States a very similar situation exists, at least until now. The more or less serious commentators take their information about Israel, and much of their opinions about it, from two sources. The first is from articles in the "liberal" American press, written almost totally by Jewish admirers of Israel who, even if they are critical of some aspects of the Israeli state, practice loyally what Stalin used to call "the constructive criticism." (In fact those among them who claim also to be "Anti-Stalinist" are in reality more Stalinist than Stalin, with Israel being their god which has not yet failed). In the framework of such critical worship it must be assumed that Israel has always "good intentions" and only "makes mistakes," and therefore such a plan would not be a matter for discussion–exactly as the Biblical genocides committed by Jews are not mentioned. The other source of information, The Jerusalem Post, has similar policies. So long, therefore, as the situation exists in which Israel is really a "closed society" to the rest of the world, because the world wants to close its eyes, the publication and even the beginning of the realization of such a plan is realistic and feasible.

Israel Shahak (1982)

"nothing wrong with being anti israel"

I traveled with some young Israelis a couple of weeks ago. They would like to change things at home. But they don't find it practical.

I agree theres some very brave & comitted people there working in support of human rights – not the easiest environment to be pushing that agenda at this point in time.

@ Patrick – thanks; didnt think it was anything special myself but nice to be appreciated!

Chortle
The CIA did not publish thier stuff on TMP you are..If its Not game related by your own admission why are you..Help me understand what it is you're trying to say. Because I don't understand the relevance of you starting this thread. And bill I don't get how you zap some people but let others get away with it . It's your forum but could you try to be a little even handed…Mikey

Chortle,

It has nothing to do with wargaming. It shouldn't be here. The only conclusion is that you're pushing your politics.

And as for "nothing wrong with being anti-Israel" I agree. Excetp that practically all of the criticism of Israel is the product of a double standard that's not applied to other nations. And despite Chortle's feeble explanation, most of it is in fact just Jew bashing.

As an example, look at the article he posts. It doens't say that it's Israel's strategy to take advantage of Arab weakness and dvision. No, it accuses Israel of interceding to foster that division.

It thus fits right into the trope of the sneaky, invidious Jew, that's undermining the stability of other nations (Hitler was fond of that one).

And let's think about it. Do you really think Israel can, or in fact needs to interfere in the Arab nations internal affairs to divide them? They do a good enough job of that on their own.

So, with whatever respect is due Chortle, your protestations of innocence are full of it.

If you are looking back and trying to understand the actions of a nation in a given period contemporary writing is important. I recently read the autobiography of the last French Ambassador to the Russian court. Before that I read the memoirs of a courtier at the Napoleonic Westphalian court. Unless you are just interested in imaginations, history is a part of the hobby. I just read a book on the Pheonix program in Vietnam. Is a post about that going to upset you?

"Do you really think Israel can, or in fact needs to interfere in the Arab nations internal affairs to divide them?"

I think it is possible. They have done worse.

The motto of Mossad is "By way of deception thou shalt do war." Look at the Lavon affair. Israel tried to murder American and British civilians in order to blame the Egyptians, so that the British and Americans could be used to attack Egypt (you will note that Egypt is on the list of target nations mentioned in the original article I linked). The operation failed when a device went off early.

Lavon Affair (operation Suzanna)

Unmarked Israeli planes tried to sink the USS Liberty. The surviving crew conjecture that this was done in order that the sinking be blamed on Egypt.

usslibertyveterans.org

People look at past events as a way of anticipating the future. A group of students at a military college wrote a report on the possibility of a peace keeping mission in Israel in which they said of Mossad: "Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."

That is a fair comment if you look at Mossad's past actions. Surely also interesting if you are designing a game for players taking the part of regional powers.

A group of students at a military college wrote a report on the possibility of a peace keeping mission in Israel in which they said of Mossad: "Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."

Really? A group of students wrote that Israel would be capable of doing something? Well, that's very authoritative, damning evidence then.

And spare me your USS Liberty story which as your post acknowledges is conjecture by a bunch of former crew.

That is a fair comment if you look at Mossad's past actions. Surely also interesting if you are designing a game for players taking the part of regional powers.

Sure, for all those wargames involving espionage. Or where the players play as regional powers, like Diplomacy.

Your explanations become more and more tenuous.

Is Lyndon LaRouche making inroads in Bangladesh? I know I was surprised several years ago to see them pushing their nonsense in Germany, always thinking he was a purely American phenomenon.

Or is this particular brand of conspiracy/nutterism/anti-antisemitism a branch of some other tree?

As for "What does this have to do with wargaming?" may I present to you the Ultramodern Board, set up by the Editor without the usual poll, and heavily supported and contributed to by him, and is 95% devoid of gaming content.
If this upsets you hit the complaint button and see how far you get.

(Proverbs 24:6): translates as "For by wise guidance you can wage your war", not "By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War", which is itself an alleged quote and just demonstrates how Mossad creates a series of phantom operations and stories to reinforce it's 'terrifying' reputation. Think of the mouse in the 'The Gruffalo' as a good image, you defeat an enemy with intelligence and guile and playing upon your enemies fears, prejudices and preconceptions.

And spare me your USS Liberty story which as your post acknowledges is conjecture by a bunch of former crew.

I am sorry to hear that you don't think their service warrants consideration of their views.

An independent panel with Retired Admiral Thomas Moorer and Former US Ambassador James Akins concluded the attack was deliberate.

The USS Liberty was attacked by rockets, canon, napalm and torpedoes killing 34 sailors and wounding 173. Despite jamming of navy and international maratime distress frequencies (a war crime) the crew eventually managed to jerry rig an antenna and contact the Sixth Fleet for help.

"Following their torpedo attack, the torpedo boats moved up and down the length of the ship (both the port and starboard sides), continuing their attack, raking the ship with cannon and machine gun fire. In Malta, crewmen were later assigned the task of counting all of the holes in the ship that were the size of a man's hand or larger. They found a total of 861 such holes, in addition to "thousands" of .50 caliber machine gun holes"

"The defenseless crew, initially unable to report their plight or summon assistance and with only themselves to rely upon, fought heroically to save themselves and their ship. In recognition of their effort in this single action, they were ultimately awarded, collectively, one Medal of Honor, two Navy Crosses, eleven Silver Stars, twenty Bronze Stars (with "V" device), nine Navy Commendation Medals, and two hundred and four Purple Hearts. In addition, the ship was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation."

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Really? A group of students wrote that Israel would be capable of doing something? Well, that's very authoritative, damning evidence then.

This is how it was described in the Washington Times:

"An elite U.S. Army study center has devised a plan for enforcing a major Israeli-Palestinian peace accord that would require about 20,000 well-armed troops stationed throughout Israel and a newly created Palestinian state."

"But a 68-page paper by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS) does provide a look at the daunting task any international peacekeeping force would face if the United Nations authorized it, and Israel and the Palestinians ever reached a peace agreement.

Located at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., the School for Advanced Military Studies is both a training ground and a think tank for some of the Army's brightest officers. Officials say the Army chief of staff, and sometimes the Joint Chiefs of Staff, ask SAMS to develop contingency plans for future military operations. During the 1991 Persian Gulf war, SAMS personnel helped plan the coalition ground attack that avoided a strike up the middle of Iraqi positions and instead executed a "left hook" that routed the enemy in 100 hours.

The cover page for the recent SAMS project said it was done for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. But Maj. Chris Garver, a Fort Leavenworth spokesman, said the study was not requested by Washington.

"This was just an academic exercise," said Maj. Garver. "They were trying to take a current situation and get some training out of it."

The exercise was done by 60 officers dubbed "Jedi Knights," as all second-year SAMS students are nicknamed."

Is Lyndon LaRouche making inroads in Bangladesh?

I haven't heard of him, Chris. But the reason for him bringing up whatever points will always be the same; genuine conflict of interest between groups of people. They call it anti-semitism to draw your attention away from whatever the underlying conflict is. Look up "1933 Judea declares war on Germany" to see what I mean.