Tango01 | 15 Sep 2014 9:54 p.m. PST |
… women and kids 'stopped en route'. "About 930 France's residents and citizens, including 60 women, are either already fighting in Iraq and Syria or are planning to go there, the country's interior minister said. Dozens of women and children were stopped on their way there. "930 French citizens or foreigners usually resident in France are today involved in jihad in Iraq and Syria," France's Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve told Le Journal du Dimanche. According to Cazeneuve, at least 350 people "are on the ground, including 60 women." "Around 180 have left from Syria and 170 are en route for the zone," he said, adding that about 230 people want to get to the areas with Islamic militants…" Full article here link Amicalement Armand |
Murphy | 15 Sep 2014 11:05 p.m. PST |
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Tango01 | 15 Sep 2014 11:26 p.m. PST |
Because by religion conviction?… Amicalement Armand |
nickinsomerset | 16 Sep 2014 12:00 a.m. PST |
France has a massive muslim population, Tally Ho! |
Zargon | 16 Sep 2014 12:02 a.m. PST |
Strip em of the citizenship, problem solved let em get a IS passport see where it takes them. Sooner or later they'll want to return, no go. |
VonTed | 16 Sep 2014 4:05 a.m. PST |
I never did understand why any country would make this the first thing. "You are joining a terrorist organization? OK, your citizenship is revoked." |
zippyfusenet | 16 Sep 2014 4:35 a.m. PST |
Many of the European mujahidin are second-generation, natural-born Frenchmen or Britons or Swedes, etc. It's not so easy to strip a natural-born of citizenship. But they could be locked up upon return, instead of being allowed to roam around loose. |
cosmicbank | 16 Sep 2014 5:34 a.m. PST |
Is there not a hidden joke here "930 RPGs for sale only dropped once" or something like that. Sorry someone had to say it. |
Legion 4 | 16 Sep 2014 6:59 a.m. PST |
As Nick said France has a large moslem population. And has had problems with many of them in the past … And yes, France may have to open their own version on Gitmo. As bad as that may sound, what to you do with fanatics that want to kill you and themselve at the same time ? If they return to your country and are walking the streets … looking for targets … With Terrorism it's a 0 – Sum game … They only have to be successful once to spread their terrorists goals … |
Dan97526 | 16 Sep 2014 4:05 p.m. PST |
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Deadone | 16 Sep 2014 6:05 p.m. PST |
No surprise when anywhere up to 10% of France is Muslim (government doesn't keep stats on religion). Given demographic trends, France (as well as possibly Germany, Sweden and a few other Western countries) will be either Islamic majority or large minority in the next 100 years. If Islam hasn't sorted itself out, in 2100 it will be Islamic Western European caliphates waging war on Eastern European infidels. If it has sorted out, it will probably be some sort of reasonably peaceful Islamic Republics! |
darthfozzywig | 16 Sep 2014 9:02 p.m. PST |
If it has sorted out, it will probably be some sort of reasonably peaceful Islamic Republics! ROFL |
goragrad | 17 Sep 2014 12:08 a.m. PST |
Surprise, surprise, surprise! On May 24th of this year Mehdi Nemmouche, 29, a man with dual French-Algerian citizenship walked into the Jewish Museum in Brussels and opened fire with an AK 47 killing an Israeli couple and a Frenchwoman and wounding a Belgian man. Mr. Nemmouche, from Roubaix, France, had reportedly spent a year in Syria with ISIL. When captured in addition to his weapons (AK 47 and pistol) he had a white sheet emblazoned with the the name of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. From the OP it looks like more to come… |
Weasel | 17 Sep 2014 9:05 a.m. PST |
I know on TMP, everything in the world is horrible but… Lets keep things in perspective There's some 5-6 million Muslims in France (according to wiki). 1000 potential jihadists would be 0.0002% of the muslim population. That's not even a minority, it's a statistical blip.
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zippyfusenet | 17 Sep 2014 12:50 p.m. PST |
1000 actual mujahidin, motivated enough to cross the sea and join the war. An unknown number with potential to do the same, or even to go ghazi back home. There's the concern. |
Weasel | 17 Sep 2014 2:57 p.m. PST |
If the French government has accurate enough data to determine the exact number, I imagine the French security services have accurate enough data to arrest them as appropriate. If joining a foreign terror organization is illegal under French law (and I imagine it is), then they can be detained when they set foot on French soil. Failing that, I imagine they'll find themselves on the wrong end of a Syrian T72 soon enough. People act like terrorism has never existed before and we must invent some sort of new system to deal with it. |
Legion 4 | 19 Sep 2014 6:35 a.m. PST |
"FIFTY MILLION FRENCHMEN CAN'T BE WRONG" … oh … wait … that was something else … never mind … |