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Viper guy Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2014 11:58 p.m. PST

I am starting to paint Loyalist Regiments for the Southern campaign. I remember seeing a great example of someone using Perry Southern Militia figures they had left over mixed with uniformed troops. Does anyone have any such examples? Thank you in advance.

Gnu200014 Sep 2014 2:15 a.m. PST
Viper guy Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2014 4:02 a.m. PST

Perfect. Thank you very much!

45thdiv14 Sep 2014 4:05 a.m. PST

This is a great site that has a lot of very nice units. It's a blog called Tarleton's Quarter.

gilesallison.blogspot.com

Matthew

CSCaptainDave14 Sep 2014 4:50 p.m. PST

When I started researching American loyalist units and militias in the South, I was surprised to find out how uniform they actually were. Unlike our image of American militia as wearing civilian clothing, most of the loyalists i am finding wore various uniforms. The Royal North Carolina Regiment even wore kilts with blue jackets, New York Volunteers in green jackets, South Carolina Loyalists in blue, and Galvez's New Orleans militia (both black and white) in uniforms and top hats! Makes for an interesting look on the gaming table.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2014 5:50 p.m. PST

Just remember that Galvez's forces were Spanish and thus fought against the British as an American "ally."

Jim

John the OFM14 Sep 2014 6:03 p.m. PST

The Royal North Carolina Regiment even wore kilts with blue jackets,

Maybe…
A lot of uniform books show that, but they all refer back to one source, and I think he just made it up. grin
I painted up a regiment of 15 or 18, and could not really justify it. So I sold them.

spontoon14 Sep 2014 7:48 p.m. PST

@ John the OFM;

Which is the one source you refer to? I have read fairly reasonable sources saying that they were uniformed in sailor's slop jackets ( blue) and bonnets and kilts from surplus cloth sent to uniform the 71st.; who already being in the Colonies, had lost a large portion of troops as prisoners when sailing late into Boston harbor!

historygamer15 Sep 2014 6:22 a.m. PST
Winston Smith15 Sep 2014 11:22 a.m. PST

Speaking for/as the OFM….
The " original" source is either Mollo or Lefferts. It was a long time ago so I am not sure which.
I doubt the wearing of kilts in the South because most Highlanders in the South switched to overalls or trews if they had the whole great kilt to start with.

To reiterate, I had the North Carolina Highlanders in blue with kilts because an Osprey book showed them. I painted them from leftover highlanders from the FIW. When I began to have doubts I sold them.
BTW I had never seen them referred to as "Royal North Carolina" but always as "North Carolina Highlanders".
I am not taking a stand on this. I merely doubt they existed in the blue jacket kilted form.

Supercilius Maximus15 Sep 2014 12:19 p.m. PST

Quite a few Loyalist units from N and S Carolina seem to have had yellow facings on their coats.

It's also worth bearing in mind that new recruits – especially those acquired whilst on campaign – would not immediately be issued uniforms (same for Loyalists and Continentals) and so you would have odd men in each company wearing civvies among the uniformed (and not so uniformed).

Malbrook15 Sep 2014 3:51 p.m. PST

Winston is correct. RNCR <> NC Highlanders.

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