Editor in Chief Bill | 08 Sep 2014 8:50 p.m. PST |
Which historical U.S. military figure most deserves to have a modern tank design named after him? (Excluding those already honored, officially or unofficially, by the US or other countries…) |
Great War Ace | 08 Sep 2014 9:07 p.m. PST |
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Korvessa | 08 Sep 2014 9:17 p.m. PST |
Since they pick so many ACW generals: Custer (he said knowing it could start a firestorm) |
David Manley | 08 Sep 2014 9:27 p.m. PST |
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Coelacanth1938 | 08 Sep 2014 9:30 p.m. PST |
Chuck Norris (and then the Chinese will come up with the Bruce Lee and will begin to win all land battles) |
skippy0001 | 08 Sep 2014 9:38 p.m. PST |
Oddball Actually, Crazy Horse. Audie Murphy. |
John the OFM | 08 Sep 2014 9:44 p.m. PST |
John S Wood. So far, the only serious answer. |
cloudcaptain | 08 Sep 2014 9:58 p.m. PST |
Col. Danny McKnight. A very humble man. I had the pleasure of speaking with him at length. He is decorated though :). Still…the McKnight Main Battle Tank has a nice ring to it. |
D A THB | 08 Sep 2014 10:05 p.m. PST |
General Schwarzkop, just for the laughs you would get saying watch out for that schwarzkop. Or here comes a schwarzkop etc. |
wrgmr1 | 08 Sep 2014 10:59 p.m. PST |
Lt. General Matthew Ridgway |
GarrisonMiniatures | 08 Sep 2014 11:33 p.m. PST |
'So far, the only serious answer.' Interested to know why America's most decorated hero isn't a serious answer. Likewise, it's probably about time that some of the 'Native American' chiefs got some recognition. |
arthur1815 | 09 Sep 2014 2:19 a.m. PST |
But surely the Native American chiefs fought against the US Army? So to name a US tank after one of them would be not unlike calling a British tank Cetshwayo or Mad Mahdi! |
vaughan | 09 Sep 2014 2:21 a.m. PST |
But your helicopters are named after them. |
ubercommando | 09 Sep 2014 2:54 a.m. PST |
Gavin. "We've got Gavins on the horizon!" |
McWong73 | 09 Sep 2014 3:07 a.m. PST |
The native american names would be excellent, I think it would be appropriate now, and rather inclusive. Of course the big debate should be what platforms use those names. Big assed, heavy tanks probably aren't the right vehicles to name after some of the worlds best light cavalry. |
Ed Mohrmann | 09 Sep 2014 4:08 a.m. PST |
Wade Hampton Joe Wheeler Hugh Gaffey Stand Watie |
Shardik | 09 Sep 2014 4:14 a.m. PST |
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LeadLair76 | 09 Sep 2014 4:54 a.m. PST |
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zoneofcontrol | 09 Sep 2014 5:29 a.m. PST |
How about naming one after Gen. Dynamics? |
Thomas Nissvik | 09 Sep 2014 6:29 a.m. PST |
They are both dead and that makes them historical and thus eligible: Shughart and Gordon. |
Just Jack | 09 Sep 2014 6:30 a.m. PST |
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boy wundyr x | 09 Sep 2014 6:40 a.m. PST |
Sheridan should be allowed a do-over. |
ColCampbell | 09 Sep 2014 6:53 a.m. PST |
McClellan Surely you must be making a joke here. Jim |
arthur1815 | 09 Sep 2014 7:06 a.m. PST |
McClellan would be an excellent name for so many military projects – costs a lot of money, promises much, fails to deliver! May we borrow it for use in UK? |
The Tin Dictator | 09 Sep 2014 7:19 a.m. PST |
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Mserafin | 09 Sep 2014 8:23 a.m. PST |
But surely the Native American chiefs fought against the US Army?So to name a US tank after one of them would be not unlike calling a British tank Cetshwayo or Mad Mahdi! Well, we've named them for R.E. Lee and J.E.B. Stuart, and both of them fought against the US Army, so what's your point? |
Ed Mohrmann | 09 Sep 2014 8:31 a.m. PST |
I thought of T. Jackson, but recalled that the 90mm M36 TD was called 'the Jackson.' I don't know if that was 'official' or not |
javelin98 | 09 Sep 2014 8:37 a.m. PST |
The McClellan would be for parade use only. |
wminsing | 09 Sep 2014 8:49 a.m. PST |
I think helicopters have dibs on Native American names though. Seems like we're due for an Eisenhower, at any rate. If we want an ACW theme, then what about Buford, even Meade? -Will |
Tacitus | 09 Sep 2014 8:50 a.m. PST |
Or a self propelled "Eisenhowitzer"? |
Parzival | 09 Sep 2014 9:01 a.m. PST |
Interested to know why America's most decorated hero isn't a serious answer. It is serious, but Audie Murphy was an infantryman, so not likely to give his name to a cavalry vehicle! As for a Native American, Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, and Chief Joseph come to mind. Though how the US Cavalry would feel about tanks named after two chieftains who wiped out five cavalry companies is another matter. |
troopwo | 09 Sep 2014 9:08 a.m. PST |
I thought it was the Brits who named all the US tanks? |
Jozis Tin Man | 09 Sep 2014 9:11 a.m. PST |
We name helicopters after native tribes, so maybe shift that to leaders? Iroquois, Apache, Blackhawks, Kiowa, Lakota. Back to the original post, maybe after Hal Moore? Or Dick Winters? |
etotheipi | 09 Sep 2014 10:16 a.m. PST |
Theodore Roosevelt, though you would pretty much have to call it the "Rough Rider" to have the least ridiculous tank name. |
Princeps | 09 Sep 2014 10:20 a.m. PST |
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Inari7 | 09 Sep 2014 1:05 p.m. PST |
How about honoring The Marquis de Lafayette. That would really be an interesting choice. |
Shardik | 09 Sep 2014 2:16 p.m. PST |
McClellanSurely you must be making a joke here. Well spotted |
enfant perdus | 09 Sep 2014 2:28 p.m. PST |
We name helicopters after native tribes, so maybe shift that to leaders? Sadly, it appears the next gen of rotary wing aircraft won't continue that tradition. They all have names like Raider, Valor and Defiant, which means we're either trying to appeal to the video game generation, or fans of the Royal Navy. As to the OP, Henry Knox could do with more recognition. It also sounds good. Let's be honest, there is a marketing angle and no matter how deserving the individual, there is no way in Hell the Army is going to call a tank "the Wood", or "the Murphy". The Stryker is named for two MoH recipients who, by strange coincidence, happen to have the badass name of Stryker. Guess how many MoH recipients named Smith have a combat vehicle named after them. Thinking outside the box, I'll float Edwin Stanton. Never donned a uniform, but he was the organizer of victory in whupping the Secesh. |
KSeward | 09 Sep 2014 2:29 p.m. PST |
Benjamin Grierson. Ernest Harmon. |
Rich Bliss | 09 Sep 2014 2:37 p.m. PST |
Lucien Truscott or Joe Collins |
Mako11 | 09 Sep 2014 3:14 p.m. PST |
Patton, of course. I think he only had two, or three variants named after him, so definitely time for an update. |
Major Mike | 09 Sep 2014 4:32 p.m. PST |
Why not Perkins, after LTG Perkins who as a Col took his tank heavy brigade into Bagdad. If you have any questions about this event and the intense combat, read Thunder Run. |
rmaker | 09 Sep 2014 5:26 p.m. PST |
Well, we've named them for R.E. Lee and J.E.B. Stuart, and both of them fought against the US Army, so what's your point? No, we didn't. Our British allies were responsible for those names. Further, both Lee and Stuart were officers in the US Army before the ACW. Lee was even one of the "names" from the Mexican War. AFAIK, none of the Indian leaders mentioned ever served in the US forces. Now, if you wanted to use the names of the Crow scouts who died with Custer … |
BW1959 | 09 Sep 2014 7:09 p.m. PST |
Buford would be the best choice, cavalry leader in the ACW did well at Gettysburg. Also George Crook who did a lot of fighting in the Shenandoah Valley. |
Greylegion | 09 Sep 2014 7:11 p.m. PST |
Well, Let's name something after Bedford Forest. Some sort of scouting vehicle used by the 1st Cav. |
Mungo Laurie | 09 Sep 2014 8:41 p.m. PST |
Agree with naming a tank after Nathan Bedford Forrest….but it will not do…too politically incorrect, and he was never an officer in the US Army. Many bases in the south are named after Confederates, but those were named in the late 19th-early 20th centuries. He was a true genius for mounted warfare, and quite aggressive. |
Rrobbyrobot | 10 Sep 2014 8:47 a.m. PST |
It seems as if we're about done making tanks. New armored vehicles feature large wheels instead of tracks. Maybe we could give a snazzy name to the Striker variant with a turret mounting a tank gun. This is not me putting down tanks. I've pretty much lived in a few in my time. Love the old beasts. But they seem to going away in favor of other ideas. |
javelin98 | 10 Sep 2014 9:43 a.m. PST |
Not to mention that Nathan Bedford Forrest was a founding member of the Ku Klux Klan! I think there would be much consternation if someone tried naming a vehicle in his honor. |
Clays Russians | 10 Sep 2014 3:23 p.m. PST |
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deleted222222222 | 15 Sep 2014 5:36 a.m. PST |
Nathan Bedford Forrest was responsible for the Fort Pillow Massacre and was the the first Grand Wizard or whatever they called themselves of the KKK. So doubt anyone with any sense would go along with his name. Perkins would get my vote, a new MBT should carry the name of a leader that served after WWII to reflect the traditions and honors of the armor branch since WWII. |