jakethedog | 07 Sep 2014 8:02 a.m. PST |
Not sure if anyones done this yet, but I'm wondering if you can mix and match parts between Agema and Victrix on their romans Or at the very least, if they're extremely close in size.. Would make some interesting variety. Especially since both are also making carthaginians |
Bashytubits | 07 Sep 2014 11:14 a.m. PST |
This has been asked before but so far I have not seen any answers or comparison photos. |
Cerdic | 07 Sep 2014 1:06 p.m. PST |
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Cyrus the Great | 07 Sep 2014 10:04 p.m. PST |
I asked the same question here. TMP link Between Agema, Victrix and Punic Wars enthusiasts, someone knows the answer. |
1ngram | 08 Sep 2014 2:25 a.m. PST |
In fact it would be useful to know which metal ranges in general are compatible with Victrix. We are about to restart our Ancient campaign based on "Empire" but using Basic Impetus (augmented) using 28mm figures (we used 15mm for the last one) and the Punic player is attracted by the new Victrix plastics. But obviously he can't wait a year or so until the full ranges are available so would mix the plastics with compatible metal figures. But which fit in with the Victrix figures? |
Cyrus the Great | 08 Sep 2014 8:33 a.m. PST |
So many good questions, inquiring minds want to know. |
Tarantella | 12 Sep 2014 6:12 a.m. PST |
If it helps here's some of the Victrix Romans posed on 20mm bases
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Mars Ultor | 12 Sep 2014 6:19 a.m. PST |
I'm betting that they're not all that compatible. I have Agema velites…they have small heads and are slighter at least compared to crusader and Aventine velites. I keep them in their own units. I don't know about Agema's Hastati, Principes, Triarii. Maybe they're bigger, but if they're keeping in scale with their velites then they'd be slighter and smaller. Still, a variety of forms can't be that bad, I wouldn't think. |
Mithridates | 12 Sep 2014 3:29 p.m. PST |
1ngram – my experience with Victrix Hoplites is they are fine with Aventine and Gorgon, a 'tad' smaller than my old Essex and Black Tree Design. Overall the mixed phalanx looks good. Ideally I would like to mix the Agema characters with the new Victrix Italians, thinking they would be OK for height but a bit slimmer? As Mars said. Nice figures Tarantella – seem to be large 28mm as they just fit on their bases. May just have to give it a go with Agema/Victrix. Garry |
Tarantella | 14 Sep 2014 2:34 a.m. PST |
Some Agema legionaries on 80mm frontages in this blog but I notice you can purchase single sprues from Agema. Certainly worth checking out compatibility if you've a large project in mind. tabletopmog.blogspot.co.uk
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Shem667 | 16 Sep 2014 4:28 a.m. PST |
Hi folks, got em both here, but no pictures. They are NOT compatible. Not in the same unit however and not interchangeable. I'm not to picky which minis to mix, but these don't work. Victrix is much bulkier, about half a head bigger and has a different parts System. So the heads and arms don't fit Agema ones. Pila and spears are Slim on Agema and tree-trunks on Victrix. The last ones do fit most metals very good though. Don't get me wrong, both sets are very, very good!I would say that the Agema ones are even a bit better in Terms of poses and Detail, while Victrix is more compatible and has command options.So choose whatever you fancy, you can't go wrong. Best wishes and happy painting! |
Mars Ultor | 16 Sep 2014 5:56 a.m. PST |
I was afraid on the Victrix that the pila and spears were too thick. They did a better job on the Carthaginian ones from the looks of them, slimmed them down – very nice. Still, that's why the gods invented conversions if it bothers us. The rest of the figures are gorgeous. |
mysteron | 17 Sep 2014 2:46 a.m. PST |
I go along with Shem667 on concur with his findings. The Victrix model is a much more "bulkier" model where as the Agema model is a more slimmer build. That saying I am quite happy using my Agema Velites in the same army provided I keep them within the same unit ie don't mix . I don't profess to be an expert on Romans but I did notice in one of my Osprey books that the Romans did use a heavy Pila and lighter types and these could be the former type represented on the models but not quite that thick . Again it doesn't bother me . Good news for Aventine fans is that these Victrix models are compatible IMO and I will be using Aventine Cavalry and officers in my force. I think these are exciting times for Punic War fans and look forward to the Victrix Carthaginians ,Spanish and Celtic types. I dare say if you mix the latter 2 types when they become available you can make Celtiberians from these. Much to look forward to IMO .Blimey with these and Crescent and the Cross models I am beginning to get over loaded with painting projects . Well the nights will be drawing in soon . Happy modelling folks . |
1ngram | 17 Sep 2014 8:09 a.m. PST |
But what about the Victrix Carthaginians? Aventine don't do none. What metal Punic Ally figures and cavalry could be used with the Victrix Carthaginians? A+A?, Crusader? |
Shem667 | 17 Sep 2014 2:43 p.m. PST |
Hi 1ngram. That nobody can tell you since the Carthaginians are not released yet ;) However I got the rest of the Victrix models and a lot of A&A Macedonians and Romans. Comparing These, the Victrix figures are bigger. About 2-3mm eye-level. It is noticeable. Also, the cavalry is rather small. Crusader is pretty much the same, they are mainly from the same sculptor. Closer in size are the 1st Corps figures. For me, I mix them all – not in the same unit, but in the same army. Looks good. I wish I wouldn't suck so bad at posting Pictures, then I could show you some comparison shots of Impetus bases. |
Mithridates | 17 Sep 2014 3:30 p.m. PST |
1ngram – Aventine only make a Carthaginian veteran spearman. I dare say their Successor cavalry could be used as Carthaginians. Have a look at Relic Miniatures – they have some nice cavalry, Numidians, Italians, Spanish, Celts and Celtiberians. Would mix well with Victrix. Relic also does Hannibal on an elephant. I agree with Shem667 – a mix of figures makes an army look good. |