| SBminisguy | 29 Aug 2014 9:14 a.m. PST |
Interesting video showing riot police in the Phillipines practising Roman tactics to combat a mob. Gives you an idea of how dynamic and fast moving things are when real people are involved rather than Hollywood-esque slow-motion theatrics in the movies. YouTube link |
| JasonAfrika | 29 Aug 2014 9:49 a.m. PST |
Thanks, that was fascinating |
Roderick Robertson  | 29 Aug 2014 10:43 a.m. PST |
Interesting that the shieldmen were using both hands on the shield – no baton or other weapons those were for their backups. It helps that the cops massively outnumbered the "protesters". |
| Caesar | 29 Aug 2014 11:08 a.m. PST |
An interesting demonstration. |
| JJartist | 29 Aug 2014 12:02 p.m. PST |
I think it was a fake mob… and I think the bararians forgot to outflank the maniples… but it does illustrate the dynamics of troops interpenetrating other units, and how disciplined troops could do this (such as the Spartans moving through the other Greeks at Thermopylae--- actions that games conspire to ignore completely)… |
| skippy0001 | 29 Aug 2014 12:12 p.m. PST |
Hire them for Roman War films-Vin Diesel could use them for his Hannibal project. |
| Bellbottom | 29 Aug 2014 12:24 p.m. PST |
Modern choreography, nothing ancient about it. Crowd choreographed too (obviously) and not attacking, only demonstrating. Against that fancy police footwork, a proper savage crowd would have massacred them. The only way to stop massed attackers who have intent, is a solid shield wall. I know from experience as an ex-cop (UK) who has been there. |
| Thomas O | 29 Aug 2014 1:18 p.m. PST |
Looked like a training exercise for the police to me. |
| Chris Wimbrow | 29 Aug 2014 2:08 p.m. PST |
Looked like a training exercise for the police to me. I don't think anyone doubts that. The few individuals of the "mob" who are reluctant to retreat with the rest seem to almost cause problems. Perhaps that was their role. |
| Katzbalger | 29 Aug 2014 6:42 p.m. PST |
Obviously training--but Korean, not Phillipine. Interesting squad columns when the police are pulling back after driving off the protesters. Rob |
| EMPERORS LIBRARY | 29 Aug 2014 10:53 p.m. PST |
Back in the early 80's my unit helped the local police(UK) with their new riot training, soldiers being the "mob".
It only lasted one day as too many police officers were hospitalized!
The local cops had a reputation for being heavy handed with soldiers. |
| Prince Alberts Revenge | 30 Aug 2014 6:46 a.m. PST |
Back in my old "stomp and drag" days, we employed a number of formations: wedge, echelon, diamond, line, etc. All were formed off of the squad leader's hand signals. Shields were typically interlocked and we used the short side of the monadnock baton (much like a PR-24) to jab. I remember when a few hundred of us faced off against against 10,000 protesters during IMF/World Bank, I thought to myself "this is how the Romans must have felt against the Gauls…" |
| Lion in the Stars | 30 Aug 2014 10:52 a.m. PST |
I've heard that the RCMP borrows a bunch of the SCA heavy fighters for their shieldwall training. The first day, the 'demonstrators' are relatively peaceful. Second day, the demonstrators get to fight back a little (locking arms with the folks next to them, for example). Third day of the training, the SCA guys armor up and really go at it. |
| GeoffQRF | 04 Sep 2014 7:17 a.m. PST |
The few individuals of the "mob" who are reluctant to retreat with the rest Watch at about 1:15 when they suddenly surge forward, grab a sleect number of individuals then retreat back into the shield wall with them, extracting just a few of the more active protestors (presuambly a tactic to slowly dissipate the riot by taking out more active members). Happens again at 3:15, and the neat swap at 3:40 to place fresh troops in the front line. Gets a bit more scary about 5:30 when they start throwing molotovs about though! |
